Just a flu bro...literally

That's one point of view, I respect that, but it brings up questions. Survival, certainly at the top of the list. Are we talking about the few, or the many? Maybe it's a binary choice, maybe not. Consequences far reaching. Yep, agree again. Consequences of the virus itself, or consequences of action taken to manage the rate of infection? No argument at all that these questions are worthy of debate, and therein lies the problem, there was no debate. No legislation, no point counterpoint, no vote, just Governors and Mayors putting on their Crowns and ruling by decree. Feds guilty too. But, but, there is no time for debate, it's an emergency. And that my friend is exactly the situation which calls for pause. Not the nail dragging endless quagmire of endless political bullshit, but expedient yet thoughtful debate. We did none of that. Never considered a middle ground approach. Went straight to panic, we're all gonna die. Now we flop around in hand wringing mode while Rome burns. Business as usual in the nevet ending political game. These no good bastards can't set that aside no matter what. And they're the solution? They created the problem, again.

Experts had made the plans over years for xyz contingency. The politicians followed the plans.

In the old days everyone would tune into the same national channel, the men in white coats would speak and everyone would feel secure.

Now..

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No legislation, no point counterpoint, no vote, just Governors and Mayors putting on their Crowns and ruling by decree. Feds guilty too. But, but, there is no time for debate, it's an emergency. And that my friend is exactly the situation which calls for pause. Not the nail dragging endless quagmire of endless political bullshit, but expedient yet thoughtful debate.
This is a pandemic. You don't debate a virus. You listen to the people who know more than you and I do about the complexities and the challenges. Why would I debate you? Neither you nor I have any grounding in the subject matter. Ruling by decree? These people were voted into office, and now they're exercising their duties to the best of their abilities, and hopefully with the guidance of those who understand the subject matter.

There is no political bullshit apart from Trump thinking it's all about him and his Trumpettes thinking it's all about taking him down. It's not. He's gonna go down anyway like a bad turd come November. Of that there is little doubt. And whenever he talks, he just makes it more of a certainty. Even you can see that.
 
This is a pandemic. You don't debate a virus. You listen to the people who know more than you and I do about the complexities and the challenges. Why would I debate you? Neither you nor I have any grounding in the subject matter. Ruling by decree? These people were voted into office, and now they're exercising their duties to the best of their abilities, and hopefully with the guidance of those who understand the subject matter.

There is no political bullshit apart from Trump thinking it's all about him and his Trumpettes thinking it's all about taking him down. It's not. He's gonna go down anyway like a bad turd come November. Of that there is little doubt. And whenever he talks, he just makes it more of a certainty. Even you can see that.

In the meantime he is Dr Trump.

Cats are cats by nature, crows are crows and narcissists are narcissists. Their abnormal brain function is not training, its hard wiring, don't expect a cat or narcissist to be more than it is.
 
https://reason.com/2020/04/17/covid-19-lethality-not-much-different-than-flu-says-new-study/

Nobody knew the denominator. Many scientists were saying this since february, but the media is in the business of selling fear and panic, along with all the other doomer sheep.
^See. This guy is smart. Somebody gets fractions. Nobody knew what the denominator was and the Left Wing media love selling fear porn to depose Trump.

Control the numbers = control the narrative. That's why they never mass tested. To keep us in the dark. To keep us afraid. By skewing the numbers and reading the national obituary everyday on TV.

Do some research on Fauci and CDC head. Both long-time shitheads involved in all kinds of criminality. Long time buddies with Gates the jab-happy, side-effect happy, depopulationist.
 
^See. This guy is smart. Somebody gets fractions. Nobody knew what the denominator was and the Left Wing media love selling fear porn to depose Trump.

Control the numbers = control the narrative. That's why they never mass tested. To keep us in the dark. To keep us afraid. By skewing the numbers and reading the national obituary everyday on TV.

Do some research on Fauci and CDC head. Both long-time shitheads involved in all kinds of criminality. Long time buddies with Gates the jab-happy, side-effect happy, depopulationist.

I rate this post thusly, a good trump and some fluffy ideas about otter things

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The curve is now flattened and declining is most every area. Why can't the waitress go back to work? Oh, now we must make sure it's safe, whatever the hell that means, nobody can give any real clarity on that. How convenient, we can extend the shutdown indefinitely if we keep moving the goalposts. Nothing politically driven in that thought process, nothing at all.

I don’t think the epidemiologists are being political. I think every governor republican and Democrat want their states to reopen.

But information about the disease is changing so fast. Other nations who are ahead of us in this virus have seen upticks after they reopened.
 
What a load of horseshit. The world runs on "why". You coin that phrase just now? How convenient.

This all began because you specifically stated the government was not restricting anyone's right to work. This was a blatantly false statement and you can't just go "yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said it that way." before going "but this is why they are doing it".

I could agree with you on why they are doing it. You just can't bring yourself to say they are doing it!! So stubborn.

What’s horseshit is you using the moral argument of “rights” to push your practical agenda even when you admit there is no explicit right to employment.

Even if there was a right to employment (and we both mean this to be the right to seek a job, not the guaranteed right to a job) the government hasn’t forbade anyone from seeking a job. Yes, there are VERY few jobs available, because of the shut downs making it harder to find a job, but no one is guaranteed a job anyhow. If it’s harder for homeless to prove they are citizens to vote, then so be it. (Oops, different topic about rights).

This idea of “freedom of employment” is a platitude propagated by foxnews to support Trumps agenda in the wake of scientific evidence about the shutdowns and the pandemic

As of now there hasn’t been any serious challenges to the states for violating individuals’ Rights to work during these shutdowns. and there are many organizations who focus on this concept of rights (on both sides of the aisle).
 
This is a pandemic. You don't debate a virus. You listen to the people who know more than you and I do about the complexities and the challenges. Why would I debate you? Neither you nor I have any grounding in the subject matter. Ruling by decree? These people were voted into office, and now they're exercising their duties to the best of their abilities, and hopefully with the guidance of those who understand the subject matter.

There is no political bullshit apart from Trump thinking it's all about him and his Trumpettes thinking it's all about taking him down. It's not. He's gonna go down anyway like a bad turd come November. Of that there is little doubt. And whenever he talks, he just makes it more of a certainty. Even you can see that.
Perhaps I wasn't clear. I wasn't talking about some message board debate. The debate needed to happen during a legislative process, state legislators, city councils, town boards. A governor deciding an entire state must shutdown because one or two larger urban areas are having problems is absurd. Expedient debate was needed for sure, but that process cannot be abandoned simply because some wanna be King decides he or she alone must run the show.
 
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