Now that you mention it, there is one thing that I am a little curious about: you said that your system wins 99% of the time. Yet you haven't made it to live trade #34, which you don't project happening until 5 months from now. How can you claim consistent 99% profitability on your trades when you have only taken a couple of dozen entries in the live market so far? Just wondering.
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Now that you mention it, there is one thing that I am a little curious about: you said that your system wins 99% of the time. Yet you haven't made it to live trade #34, which you don't project happening until 5 months from now. How can you claim consistent 99% profitability on your trades when you have only taken a couple of dozen entries in the live market so far? Just wondering.
Maybe its possible? This is really the Holy Grail of Grails (don't be modest). That said, I do 25%+ a day on pure directional calls that risk way more (albeit normal, considering present company).. My point is that sick returns and unbelievable edges are out there. I know that for a fact.
Second, I'm not sure why you've gone to such great lengths to appease the skeptics. Careful they don't goad you into revealing too much. Another point, if entry/exit levels tell the entire story, any broker will be quick to reverse engineer/brute force your method. Not sure if it matters with this. My intuition is telling me no. Anyway, good luck. If this is the real deal, guard that shit with ur life. Already, the information u've given has wet my appetite. Please come back in a couple years and give us an update. Cheers.
Everyone knows what a straight-hedge is. If Veyron's claims are true, its not a straight-hedge. Or at least, how its structured.
If he turns this into a investment opportunity, then we'll know.
I've got enough of both to know you haven't seen much. For an accomplished trader, you're taking all this very personal. Why is that?
50k to 9k to 14k that's a neat trick, I wish I could do that
I wonder if he can make such spectacular losses on a live account?
Well, I'm not going to get into the technical aspects of what I do. Most, given the written prose that I see here on ET thus far, would not even understand it.
However, you can troll you way over to the "Technically Speaking" side of the forum, where a real genius is now "exposing" the Veyron 16.4 as a fraud, as he (because I know it is not a she) started the thread with a marvelous demonstration of graphical and mathematical acuity that makes it hands down perfectly clear to everyone, that he's absolutely clueless.
Of course, I responded by giving the technical concepts behind the math that I use and the way I use them, to get the job done in the currency markets.
Ya know, the biggest problem with this business is that it all too often attracts the narrow minded bigot, unable to see past his own failures, having such an ego that prevents him from accepting the fact that he's not as smart as he thinks he might be in this business in general.
So, when you present that kind of mindset with the notion that somebody else has reached a level that they have always aspired to, but always failed to reach, they get absurdly indignant and outraged at the very notion itself. You could stand and provide mountains of "proof" all day long and this particular mindset would perpetually find a way (regardless of how illogical their attack might be) to offset what's been presented to them, with self-reliant, arrogant posturing that guarantees they never have the opportunity to get beyond themselves and experience a level of virtual worry-free trading.
This industry is filled with people, just like that and if I've seen it happen once then I've seen it a thousand times before over the years.
I've spent years failing to be long-term successful in this business and paid the price the narrow minded bigot does not want to pay. So, I've paid my dues by doing my due diligence, working hard, working creatively and using my education to advance my goals in this industry. Now, things are starting to pay-off (as I watch Michelle Wei put another ball within mere feet of the hole!!! GO USA!) and I'm enjoying the fruits of my hard labor.
You might not like that (as Michelle Wei sinks yet ANOTHER put - man she's hot today!) but that is exactly the way it is (I knew Michelle had it in her!)
Moral of the story:
Having a vision is one thing. However, vision without the capacity for extra hard work and the capacity to find ways of working smarter along the way, will typically end up in frustrated dreams that hardly ever materialize.
As the kids say: Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
Or, as I might say: Don't hate the game. Learn how the game "should" be played, then play the heck out of it when you get the opportunity.
And, no. I am not interested in developing a fund and/or managing other peoples cash. Why? LOL! Why would anybody manage other peoples cash for profit, when they have the ability to manage their own capital with such low risk. I prefer to work my own capital - thank you very much.
My goal is a cool billion under private management (my private management). Now, you can like that goal or hate that goal or be indifferent towards that goal, but YOU don't have the responsibility of reaching that goal for me - I do. It is my responsibility to make MY dreams come true.
Smart people don't just dream - they go out and build tools that help them make their dreams come true.
Become a tool builder instead of a dream destroyer and you just make make some headwind in life. Or, enjoy mediocrity.
The choice is yours to make and as quiet as it is kept - it always has been yours to make.
However, you can troll you way over to the "Technically Speaking" side of the forum, where a real genius is now "exposing" the Veyron 16.4 as a fraud, as he (because I know it is not a she) started the thread with a marvelous demonstration of graphical and mathematical acuity that makes it hands down perfectly clear to everyone, that he's absolutely clueless.
Of course, I responded by giving the technical concepts behind the math that I use and the way I use them, to get the job done in the currency markets.
Ya know, the biggest problem with this business is that it all too often attracts the narrow minded bigot, unable to see past his own failures, having such an ego that prevents him from accepting the fact that he's not as smart as he thinks he might be in this business in general.
So, when you present that kind of mindset with the notion that somebody else has reached a level that they have always aspired to, but always failed to reach, they get absurdly indignant and outraged at the very notion itself. You could stand and provide mountains of "proof" all day long and this particular mindset would perpetually find a way (regardless of how illogical their attack might be) to offset what's been presented to them, with self-reliant, arrogant posturing that guarantees they never have the opportunity to get beyond themselves and experience a level of virtual worry-free trading.
This industry is filled with people, just like that and if I've seen it happen once then I've seen it a thousand times before over the years.
I've spent years failing to be long-term successful in this business and paid the price the narrow minded bigot does not want to pay. So, I've paid my dues by doing my due diligence, working hard, working creatively and using my education to advance my goals in this industry. Now, things are starting to pay-off (as I watch Michelle Wei put another ball within mere feet of the hole!!! GO USA!) and I'm enjoying the fruits of my hard labor.
You might not like that (as Michelle Wei sinks yet ANOTHER put - man she's hot today!) but that is exactly the way it is (I knew Michelle had it in her!)
Moral of the story:
Having a vision is one thing. However, vision without the capacity for extra hard work and the capacity to find ways of working smarter along the way, will typically end up in frustrated dreams that hardly ever materialize.
As the kids say: Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
Or, as I might say: Don't hate the game. Learn how the game "should" be played, then play the heck out of it when you get the opportunity.
And, no. I am not interested in developing a fund and/or managing other peoples cash. Why? LOL! Why would anybody manage other peoples cash for profit, when they have the ability to manage their own capital with such low risk. I prefer to work my own capital - thank you very much.
My goal is a cool billion under private management (my private management). Now, you can like that goal or hate that goal or be indifferent towards that goal, but YOU don't have the responsibility of reaching that goal for me - I do. It is my responsibility to make MY dreams come true.
Smart people don't just dream - they go out and build tools that help them make their dreams come true.
Become a tool builder instead of a dream destroyer and you just make make some headwind in life. Or, enjoy mediocrity.
The choice is yours to make and as quiet as it is kept - it always has been yours to make.
I just ran into this thread and wanted to say best of luck with your endeavor. I hope you reach your goals and are able to make some real POSITIVE difference in this world with the cash.
I have seen profitable traders get crucified in these forums over the years. You can actually see someone who is profitable by how many haters they get.
Personally, I have been at this game for about 6 years+. It takes someone with real heart and a mind of 1 in a million to be willing stick it out longer than 3 years without results.......I know. Anyway, go out there, the world is your oyster and you earned it! Congrats.
I cant get the point of veyron of hanging around showing ass off as a great forex market trader.
the statements posted at the very first page are nothing more then accidental profit.. (happened to me few times as well, when I was starting out in forex and demoing EURUSD. I simply forgot that I had an open position since last week, and it went in my favour
) But the difference was that I was not THAT excited about it
once again. veyron, you dont need to prove nothing to anyone, except of yourself.. save your breath..
the statements posted at the very first page are nothing more then accidental profit.. (happened to me few times as well, when I was starting out in forex and demoing EURUSD. I simply forgot that I had an open position since last week, and it went in my favour
) But the difference was that I was not THAT excited about it once again. veyron, you dont need to prove nothing to anyone, except of yourself.. save your breath..
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is this thread still honestly going...
lol!!!!
Yeah. It really is amazing how jealousy and too much ego, wrapped in an abundance of ignorance brings out the worst in people, is it not.
Sad.