Jury recommends life without parole for Nikolas Cruz

[Overnight]

My point is most cases with the death penalty aren't as obvious as these mass shooting cases. We shouldn't let the exception set the standard.

I don't think you really read what I typed.

The guy shot a bunch of teens. He went back to the wounded kids cowering in the corner, put the rifle into their face, and shot them in the head multiple times, blowing apart the skull. This is a person who needs to die. This is not a person that needs to be supported by the taxpayer for the next 80 years or however long.

 

[Nobert]

A life behind bars, waiting for your time, that is cruel & civilized at the same.

 

[kmgilroy89]

I don't think you really read what I typed.

The guy shot a bunch of teens. He went back to the wounded kids cowering in the corner, put the rifle into their face, and shot them in the head multiple times, blowing apart the skull. This is a person who needs to die. This is not a person that needs to be supported by the taxpayer for the next 80 years or however long.

I know what he did and that means he needs to be kept from the rest of society. He doesn’t “need to die” anymore than others with life in prison. I’m not interested in justice/revenge for the “sick” things he did. My philosophy is that the criminal system should serve as a system of reforms/deterrents. Life in prison is enough of a deterrent for murder in my opinion. I think going any further than that has basically zero benefit when it comes to deterring crime. I think there are better ways to handle the economic component than executing prisoners. Instead of outsourcing certain jobs to cheap labor countries more things could be made in prisons.

 

[gwb-trading]

I know what he did and that means he needs to be kept from the rest of society. He doesn’t “need to die” anymore than others with life in prison. I’m not interested in justice/revenge for the “sick” things he did. My philosophy is that the criminal system should serve as a system of reforms/deterrents. Life in prison is enough of a deterrent for murder in my opinion. I think going any further than that has basically zero benefit when it comes to deterring crime. I think there are better ways to handle the economic component than executing prisoners. Instead of outsourcing certain jobs to cheap labor countries more things could be made in prisons.

They actually already have private companies that use prison labor in the U.S. to make products or perform services. It’s actually one of the most abusive parts of our prison system.

 

[gwb-trading]

I don't think there is a point to having the death penalty. First of all, he would be on death row for like 20 years with all the appeals. That ends up being a lot of money. Secondly, forget this rare obvious specific case, there's plenty of cases where the death penalty has been enacted on innocent people. Thirdly, America is the only developed western democracy with the death penalty and it sure hasn't deterred us from killing more people than those other countries. In fact, we murder more people per capita than all of them and it's not even close. Fourth, there are clear racial disparities as to when it's applied. Had Cruz been black, there's a much higher likelihood he would have been sentence to death and his upbringing would have been overlooked.

I support the death penalty in cases where it is clear and obvious who committed the crime beyond any doubt.

For example if a suspect goes into a diner and shoots half the patrons dead. He is caught onsite by the police, identified by the survivors, and can be seen on the diner's video cameras. There is no doubt the individual committed these murders. This is a case where it is clear and obvious who committed the crime --- and should be case where the death penalty is used. There can be no claims the guy is innocent or that some type of racial bias was involved in applying the death penalty.

 

[FortuneTeller]

Cops should of shot him when they caught him?

 

[kmgilroy89]

Cops should of shot him when they caught him?

I can't see your wonderful posts, because you ignored me for whatever reason.

 

[Overnight]

Cops should of shot him when they caught him?

The cops are losers, in Spanish. Is that racist?

 

[Cuddles]

Now the state has to pay to keep this fucktard alive, clothed and fed while his victims got no such mercy... better to kill him and remove the burden and let families never have to see him or hear about him again by lethal injection...

Seriously...if ever there was a slam dunk death penalty case this was it...

Don't most capital punishment cases end up costing more than a lifelong sentence for the state? I mean, I'd agree with you if they'd just take him to the backyard and popped one in the back of the head in cases where there just isn't a single shred of doubt like this one. Lots of brothers end up on Texas death row w/weak cases.

 

[Tony Stark]

Don't most capital punishment cases end up costing more than a lifelong sentence for the state? I mean, I'd agree with you if they'd just take him to the backyard and popped one in the back of the head in cases where there just isn't a single shred of doubt like this one. Lots of brothers end up on Texas death row w/weak cases.

True.Many people be on death row 20+ years.


Personally Id rather die than spend the rest of my life in prison.