Julian Assange: Hero or Villain?

[walter4]

Quote from Maverick74:

Phenomena, I'm going to try to engage you here. See if it's possible to get some intelligent dialogue out of you. How exactly is supporting Assange going to change anything? Do you think these leaks have revealed anything that we don't already know about how the world works? Next thing you are going to tell me is people on Wall Street are greedy and men cheat on their wives. I mean seriously, what is the end game here? Washington is laughing at this. Obama is laughing at this. Hillary Clinton is laughing at this. You think this changes anything? Are you really that naive? I'm curious what your respons

e is.

You're not very bright, are you..

http://www.forbes.com/2010/11/29/ju...ia-assange_lander.html?boxes=Homepagechannels

 

[shortie]

Ron Paul: ‘What we need is more WikiLeaks’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/ron-paul-what-wikileaks/

 

[moo]

Quote from jammy:

In this sense, most of the media commentary on the latest round of leaks has totally missed the point. After all, why are diplomatic cables being leaked? These leaks are not specifically about the war(s) at all, and most seem to simply be a broad swath of the everyday normal secrets that a security state keeps from all but its most trusted hundreds of thousands of people who have the right clearance. Which is the point: Assange is completely right that our government has conspiratorial functions. What else would you call the fact that a small percentage of our governing class governs and acts in our name according to information which is freely shared amongst them but which cannot be shared amongst their constituency? And we all probably knew that this was more or less the case; anyone who was surprised that our embassies are doing dirty, secretive, and disingenuous political work as a matter of course is naïve. But Assange is not trying to produce a journalistic scandal which will then provoke red-faced government reforms or something, precisely because no one is all that scandalized by such things any more. Instead, he is trying to strangle the links that make the conspiracy possible, to expose the necessary porousness of the American state’s conspiratorial network in hopes that the security state will then try to shrink its computational network in response, thereby making itself dumber and slower and smaller.

In other words, the point of posting leaked diplomatic cables on the Internet is not to embarrass the government, but to impede their communications and thus make them less capable of committing harm. Wikileaks is pouring sugar into the gas tank of the government-corporate complex.

I find this quote the most interesting and relevant concerning what the Wikileaks is about.


Here is a Assange's recent interview.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/co...dian-livechat-and-possibly-one-his-pre-arrest

 

[bearice]

Ron Paul stands up for Julian Assange

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) is taking a stand as one of Julian Assange’s few defenders in Washington, arguing that the WikiLeaks founder should get the same protections as the media.

“In a free society we're supposed to know the truth,” Paul said. “In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1210/45930.html

 

[orl]

Quote from moo:

Hero. Of course.

Just decided to donate 10k to him/Wikileaks. Anyone else want to help?

http://www.wikileaks.org/support.html

I donated a few weeks ago.

"We open governments"
I can't fathom why anyone would be against that?

 

[walter4]

I managed to send $200 just before paypal suspended their account.

 

[wilburbear]

Quote from walter4:

I managed to send $200 just before paypal suspended their account.

There are 3 or 4 different ways to pay. All are simple.

I gave a few weeks back.

If I see Assange in handcuffs, I'm gonna give much bigger, and call/email everyone I know.

 

[377OHMS]

Quote from wilburbear:

There are 3 or 4 different ways to pay. All are simple.

I gave a few weeks back.

If I see Assange in handcuffs, I'm gonna give much bigger, and call/email everyone I know.

You are a fool. I knew you weren't intelligent but you are really showing your ass now. I'm putting you on permanent ignore.

Anarchists like you need to be pushed up against a wall and shot.

 

[Maverick74]

Assange is now going after the climate change nuts.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-manipulated-climate-accord

 

[bugscoe]

Quote from Maverick74:

Assange is now going after the climate change nuts.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-manipulated-climate-accord

Soon lefties everywhere will be begging to have Assange arrested!