Quote from tomdavis:
* * *I expect the charges will be reduced to manslaughter before the trial begins.
Quote from icarus618:
If I remember my crim pro, as a general rule indictments cannot be amended in substance. This is because indictments are returned by a grand jury and if the prosecutor could alter the indictment it would then not be one from a grand jury. However, I recall that the prosecutor in this case was allowed to bypass the grand jury under Florida law because it was not a death penalty case. I'm not sure if that is a significant wrinkle.
Quote from tomdavis:
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Or... here's another possibility. The prosecutor doesn't care if she wins the case or not. Bringing murder charges is enough for her to win re-election and that's good enough for her.
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Quote from icarus618:
If I remember my crim pro, as a general rule indictments cannot be amended in substance. This is because indictments are returned by a grand jury and if the prosecutor could alter the indictment it would then not be one from a grand jury. However, I recall that the prosecutor in this case was allowed to bypass the grand jury under Florida law because it was not a death penalty case. I'm not sure if that is a significant wrinkle.
Quote from hughb:
Does this mean that the prosecutor can reduce the charges? I've been wondering about this since day one when the charge was 2nd degree murder. Most analysts do not believe that a 2nd degree murder conviciton is feasible in this case, but I haven't heard anyone mention an amendment or reduction in charges. I couldn't find anything with Google, but it seems like I remember hearing about court cases where juries are instructed by the judge that they may consider convicting the defendant on "lesser charges". The only charge in this case is 2nd degree murder.
Quote from icarus618:
It appears the judge may instruct the jury on lesser included offenses. That would include negligent homicide in addition to manslaughter.
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Quote from tomdavis:
They either find a way to ammend the charges down on a technicality or they lose. In California, they ammend down by both sides agreeing to allow the jury to convict on lesser charges. I don't see Zimmerman's lawyer agreeing to any changes at this point because the murder2 case is so weak. It looks like the DA screwed this case to a fare-thee-well.
Or... here's another possibility. The prosecutor doesn't care if she wins the case or not. Bringing murder charges is enough for her to win re-election and that's good enough for her.
As it stands, Zimmerman walks on a murder2 acquittal or mistrial.
Quote from hughb:
Great find, thanks. If the judge does instruct the jury to consider lesser offenses, then there is a chance Zim could be found guilty. I don't think anybody believed he could possibly be convicted of 2nd degree murder.