Joni Ernst says she was raped...

I’m asking if you believe Joni Ernst. That’s all. I’m not asking to litigate a case.

If it turns out that years after the incident, she told a friend of hers, and that friend can corroborate that she was indeed told, years later, then it will be an airtight case.

It would certainly be enough to ruin some guy's life over.
 
It would certainly be enough to ruin some guy's life over.

That was the point I was trying to get at as well. If someone close to me wants me to believe something happened to them, ok, I'll go along if it makes them feel better. When a public figure uses their office to accuse someone of something like this however, it begins to look more like stoking a social media lynch mob.

I fail to see how this helps Ernst at all. What if some guy pops up and says he is the guy and she is lying? Then what? How does that help her, politically or mentally? She is a white republican and by definition not entitled to special victim status. It's actually kind of awkward for the media because she doesn't seem to understand that.
 
I question the therapeutic value of this sort of public announcement. It looks like a pathetic attempt to garner victim status at the expense of someone who can't defend themselves. We are expected to unquestionably believe her version of something that wasn't serious enough to involve the police then. Now that she is a Senator, by golly, she is ready to make that sonofbitch pay. If I were one of her constituents, I'm afraid I would be having second thoughts about voting for her. She sounds a bit unstable and clearly is not focused on the important stuff going down.

Precisely. All he's doing is trying to catch people in some inconsistent argument applied to Joni and the Kavanaugh "victims".

When evidence is presented, I make the determination on whether to believe or not. Not before. Each person gets to their beliefs at a different time - some leap to a position the moment they hear something regardless of evidence.
 
Precisely. All he's doing is trying to catch people in some inconsistent argument applied to Joni and the Kavanaugh "victims".

When evidence is presented, I make the determination on whether to believe or not. Not before. Each person gets to their beliefs at a different time - some leap to a position the moment they hear something regardless of evidence.

Wrong.
 
Wrong.

Congratulations on finally descending to the level of BuyLoSellHi and his masterful debate ability. Now you only have to bold the word "wrong" and increase the font size, and you two will be a perfect match.
 
Congratulations on finally descending to the level of BuyLoSellHi and his masterful debate ability. Now you only have to bold the word "wrong" and increase the font size, and you two will be a perfect match.

This is not a debate is what you don’t get.
 
This is not a debate is what you don’t get.

So let me ask if a woman comes out and claims "I was raped" with no further details or facts then how can anyone make an assertions about if she is being truthful or not. Any type of evaluation if she is being truthful will require cross-correlation of the details.
 
So let me ask if a woman comes out and claims "I was raped" with no further details or facts then how can anyone make an assertions about if she is being truthful or not. Any type of evaluation if she is being truthful will require cross-correlation of the details.

I don’t know if we need to cross correlate anything to believe a woman who claims she was raped.
 
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