Jon Stewart for President?

[Frederick Foresight]

Stewart went out of his way to justify the James/Angoran conspiracy on his "comedy" show, saying that what they are charging Trump with is not a victimless crime. To prove that point he started expanding on the concept of overvaluation and went so far as to include the practice of paying taxes only on government valuations on properties that would sell on the market for much more than basic government valuations. He implied that Trump had done this, depriving New Yorkers of tax dollars. Come to find out Lord Stewart had a New York condo that was valued, for tax purposes, 1/9 what he sold it for (sold for almost 9x government evaluation). Presuming Stewart paid taxes only on what the government said it was worth, he underpaid New York taxes by a factor of 9, if calculated according to Stewarts own moral virtue signaling.

The buyer of Stewarts condo sold it in turn, for a 25% loss. Arguably, Stewart had overvalued the worth of his condo, and probably included name recognition in the price he was asking. Fine, buyer beware. But Stewart won't allow Trump to say 'banker beware' (which he did) when proposing a value for his own property, to a party, a large commercial banker (Deutch Bank), who would be much more sophisticated in their own valuations than a condo buyer trying to buy real estate from a celebrity. Because of their sophistication, Deutch Bank did not suffer any loss in their business transaction, while Stewart's unsophisticated buyer did. So it appears Stewarts deal had a victim, while Trump's didn't.

Finally, Stewart is in the James/Angoran conspiracy jurisdiction. But so far they haven't indicted him for anything.

The last time you sold your house, did you sell it for its municipal evaluation? And, as an aside, did you try to manipulate the municipal evaluation beforehand in any way? Also, while you owned it, did you try to inflate its value into the stratosphere to obtain more and/or better financing? I'm guessing you didn't. I'm guessing Stewart didn't either. But do tell me if I'm wrong.

 

[Good1]

Not sure what you're trying to say here. While Stewart owned his condo he probably only paid taxes on the municipal valuation. In his unfunny diatribe he said that's not a victimless crime, said that's the type of thing Trump would do...but didn't say that's something he would do.

Whether that is actually wrong is another question. Stewart raised a standard for Trump which he is not willing to abide by for himself. Peak hypocrisy.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

While Stewart owned his condo he probably only paid taxes on the municipal valuation.

Right. But he did not try to fraudulently influence that municipal valuation. He just accepted what was presented, as do most homeowners. Unless, of course, you have evidence to the contrary.

Whether that is actually wrong is another question. Stewart raised a standard for Trump which he is not willing to abide by for himself. Peak hypocrisy.

Seriously, you are just parroting nonsense here.

https://www.propublica.org/article/...-tower-tax-records-reveal-new-inconsistencies

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-fraud-ruling-property-valuation-michael-cohen

 

[Frederick Foresight]

The buyer of Stewarts condo sold it in turn, for a 25% loss. Arguably, Stewart had overvalued the worth of his condo, and probably included name recognition in the price he was asking. Fine, buyer beware. But Stewart won't allow Trump to say 'banker beware' (which he did) when proposing a value for his own property, to a party, a large commercial banker (Deutch Bank), who would be much more sophisticated in their own valuations than a condo buyer trying to buy real estate from a celebrity. Because of their sophistication, Deutch Bank did not suffer any loss in their business transaction, while Stewart's unsophisticated buyer did. So it appears Stewarts deal had a victim, while Trump's didn't.

Utterly bogus argument. You can sell something for whatever you can get as long as you do not misrepresent what you are selling. Trump substantially misrepresented value to his lenders. This was not in rounding error; it was in multiples, which is outright fraud. It's not even debatable.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Stop it, just stop. Clown Frederick has all the rights in the World to say stupid things.

Careful you don't step on your tie.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Leave Canadian. You have no right.

Hey boomer, what is your net contribution to society?

I bet you put a lot of thought into your post. Who was your ghost writer?

 

[Good1]

Utterly bogus argument. You can sell something for whatever you can get as long as you do not misrepresent what you are selling. Trump substantially misrepresented value to his lenders. This was not in rounding error; it was in multiples, which is outright fraud. It's not even debatable.

You're evading and misleading. That's not what. Steward did. Stewart raised a tax paying standard for Trump that he himself did not keep. He said this kind of tax evasion is not a victimless crime. If Stewart did the same thing then Stewart is guilty according to his own judgement of what is a crime.

Selling property for what you can get is another issue in itself. In Stewart's case the buyer bought.Stewarts evaluation. In Trump's case the bank looked at Trump's evaluation but "bought" it's own evaluation in regards the giving of a loan.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Stewart raised a tax paying standard for Trump that he himself did not keep.

It's like you're deliberately choosing to be misinformed. Whatever turns your crank. (Did you even click on the two links in my earlier post? Judging by your post, I'm guessing you did not.)

Selling property for what you can get is another issue in itself. In Stewart's case the buyer bought.Stewarts evaluation. In Trump's case the bank looked at Trump's evaluation but "bought" it's own evaluation in regards the giving of a loan.

You'll say just about anything in Trump's defense, won't you?

There is nothing to debate here since I'm disinclined to enter your fantasy world and its unique internal logic.

 

[Good1]

It's like you're deliberately choosing to be misinformed. Whatever turns your crank. (Did you even click on the two links in my earlier post? Judging by your post, I'm guessing you did not.)


You'll say just about anything in Trump's defense, won't you?

There is nothing to debate here.

You're still evading. Yes I clicked on the links and read.

Stewart's valuation of his property was multiples of municipal valuation. But he only paid tax on municipal evaluation. According to Stewart this is a crime that Trump committed, apart from Trump's dealings with Deutsch Bank. Personally, I don't think paying taxes on municipal valuations is wrong, but Stewart said it was wrong!

 

[Frederick Foresight]

I don't think paying taxes on municipal valuations is wrong, but Stewart said it was wrong!

Link? With the exact quote, please. This apart from the fact that Trump intentionally furnished the municipality with false information per my earlier links.