John Heilemann: Obama's a "Brass Knuckled Pipe Hitting Brawler"

Quote from denner:

Obama served his "apprenticeship" in Cook County, Illinois. Unless you've spent any time in such a backwards assed place such as the "Chicago machine", you'd have absolutely no comprehension of how things work in the place.

I'd argue that it's less about BHO's fortitude and ALL about the team of handlers that have absolutely no moral compass.
Well, if it's "all" about the handlers, then the OP is pointing fingers in the wrong direction. We get that, and you guys get the "girly man" thing... win win?
 
Obama was a part of that machine before he became president, remember this is the guy who was such a fan of Saul Alinsky that he ended up being one of the Key speakers at an Alinsky play back in 2000 when he was in the illinois Senate, so portraying him as an oblivious bystander of this kind of thuggery is inaccurate.

Quote from denner:

Obama served his "apprenticeship" in Cook County, Illinois. Unless you've spent any time in such a backwards assed place such as the "Chicago machine", you'd have absolutely no comprehension of how things work in the place.

I'd argue that it's less about BHO's fortitude and ALL about the team of handlers that have absolutely no moral compass.
 
That's right, denner, no need to invoke a second agent, Obama is both weak and strong, which one depending on what action (or inaction) you need to criticize.

Whoa, nearly forgot, but does indecisive fall under "weak", or stand on its own? I'm recalling that time he took a week or so to decide on Libya, and he was called "indecisive".
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Weak and crooked/dishonest would be more accurate.

To bad according to the media McCain refused to take the gloves when he had a chance.

McCain just has sellout, foolish compromise, turncoat, snake and loser and then wimp written all over him.
 
Quote from Ricter:

That's right, denner, no need to invoke a second agent, Obama is both weak and strong, which one depending on what action (or inaction) you need to criticize.

Whoa, nearly forgot, but does indecisive fall under "weak", or stand on its own? I'm recalling that time he took a week or so to decide on Libya, and he was called "indecisive".

I suppose I left myself wide open in my previous post. I view BHO in much the same light as I did Dubya...they campaign on a bunch of empty rhetoric and then just "waffle" back and forth on issues as they see fit.

I'm still with Achilles' assessment of the current state of politics when he quoted Washington...something to the effect of "what do you get when both political parties are nearly indistinguishable"? a dictatorship.

Like I've said a zillion times, I'm not a fan of either party.
 
Quote from jem:

To bad according to the media McCain refused to take the gloves when he had a chance.

McCain just has sellout, foolish compromise, turncoat, snake and loser and then wimp written all over him.

McCain had "status quo" stamped on his forehead during those few tense weeks leading up to the first "bailout". Meanwhile, the empty suit was leading the charge to (insert laugh track) upend the "status quo".

We all know it was the biggest load of horseshit ever dropped upon the populace, BUT at that precise moment in history it sold extraordinarily well.
 
Quote from jem:

....McCain just has sellout, foolish compromise, turncoat, snake and loser and then wimp written all over him.
No argument here. And even worse (or sad) is that he was still the better choice.
 
+1 McCain epitomizes exactly what is wrong with the republican party. Pretends to be a conservative, but loves spending money, especially if it is on war, and also wants the ultimate power in America to be in the hands of the military, then he spends all his time labelling people who actually believe in cutting spending and dropping taxes as "extremists."

You want to know why real conservatives and libertarians no longer support republicans? Take a look at McCain he is the definition of what is wrong with the republican party....

Quote from jem:

McCain just has sellout, foolish compromise, turncoat, snake and loser and then wimp written all over him.
 
Quote from denner:

McCain had "status quo" stamped on his forehead during those few tense weeks leading up to the first "bailout". Meanwhile, the empty suit was leading the charge to (insert laugh track) upend the "status quo".

We all know it was the biggest load of horseshit ever dropped upon the populace, BUT at that precise moment in history it sold extraordinarily well.

This, concisely, sums it up.. right place, right time for the worst possible guy. Most unfortunate.
 
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