John Edwards

Actually, what the Fl Supreme court did was actually rewrite stat of florida law,...the state law called for the recount and all other matters to be resolved by a certain drop dead date , i think it was december 16th?....they decided that even though Florida law says winner will be declared by that date, they decided to rewrite the law and ordered continued re counts AND did not allow certification as law required
 
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don't know for sure if this is all true but if it is....many have explaining to do


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a great deal
here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest
security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.
Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to
the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin,
Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he
has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that .. Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten
the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,)
and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction
and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing
weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority
to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe
that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real
and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively
to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the
next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated
the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every
significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his
chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has
refused to do"
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that
Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has
also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members
. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to
increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare,
and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam
Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for
the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

13 reasons why bush wants to go to Mars!



13. Mars reminds him of Texas, only without all those pesky Mexicans.

12. Saw Mars Attacks on HBO three years ago and never got over it.

11. The voices in his head told him bad things would happen if he
didn't. Very bad things.

10. Thinks Osama bin Laden might be hiding out there with Saddam's
Weapons of Mass Destruction.

9. Crazy new weapons being developed by the Pentagon are way too
dangerous to test here on Earth.

8. Non-existant industry regulation and the solar system's lowest
wages make Mars the ideal place to relocate America's few remaining
manufacturing jobs.

7. There may once have been biological life there, and where there's
biological life, there's oil!

6. Always on the lookout for new ways to put your money into
Halliburton's pockets.

5. Wants to bring the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the Martian people.

4. When Mars passed so close to the Earth last summer, it looked at
us funny.

3. "Them Mars bars sure is tasty!"

2. This is merely an extension of Bill Clinton's Mars policy. To
suggest that Bush's approach to Mars deviates in any substantial way
from that of his predecessor is preposterous, if not treasonous.


1. He doesn't. This is all just an election year ploy, a
diversionary tactic on which he has zero intention of following
through.
 
Arnie and TM,

Right you both are. It's a shame really that the Florida law has been seen as the problem, because it seemed pretty well thought-out to me. The problem was no one could foresee just how craven the Florida Supreme Court would be.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the greatest threat to our liberties and democratic form of government comes from the judicial branches, both state and federal. At some point either the President or the Congress is going to have to say enough and stand up to these budding tyrants in robes.
 
The subject of the thread is John Edwards. To this end, to see which the better candidate is I urge John Kerry
to debate John Edwards (with other candidates either included
or excluded) in as many locations as possible before Super
Tuesday. The Edwards camp openly welcomes these debates
vital to the american people. I urge Kerry supporters to
ask your candidate to accept the debates.
 
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It is becoming increasingly clear that the greatest threat to our liberties and democratic form of government comes from the judicial branches, both state and federal. At some point either the President or the Congress is going to have to say enough and stand up to these budding tyrants in robes.

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what liberty has the judiciary threatened?
 
Quote from Madison:

:confused:

what liberty has the judiciary threatened?

A free people make their own laws. We are rapidly coming to a situation where the judiciary imposes its laws on us and we either obey them or face the consequences. Take the example of Judge Roy Moore, who had the temerity to display the basis for our legal system in his courtroom.
 
If you want a Democrat to win, better go with Edwards. If you want a Republican to win, hope the Dems choose Kerry.

Forget the polls, the game is early yet. Remember what happened to Dean. In addition to some underhanded activities by his fellow democrats, Dean peaked to early.

Being way out front this early in the game is hard to maintain. Once the numbers begin to lag (which they will), its hard to rebound. Conversely, numbers that constantly rise gives the undecided something to think about.

Folks in this Forum SHOULD be capitalists. Not the corrupt kind that we see so prevalent, but a true capitalist. And as such, they should be running scared from Kerry. He isn't just a liberal, he's a Socialist.

Sure Bush isn't doing the kind of things we would like to see him do, but if my life depended on having one of these two men in a fox hole with me, I'd rather it be Bush. At least I would know when it was my turn to get a little shut eye, he would shoot the enemy to protect my life.

Whether you like the war or not, only an idiot would think a nation as wealthy and privileged as ours could remain free without military superiority. Kerry voted against the very weapons we use today, weapons that have saved our boys' lives. Bad intelligence reporting? Kerry voted to hamstring the CIA. Kerry has PTSD. Ever live with someone that suffers from that? The White House is the last place he should be.

And last but not least, after so many years in the Senate, there is so much that can be used against him he doesn't stand a chance. The Republicans started about 10 yrs ago playing the game the way Democrats always have, this could get ugly.
 
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