John Boehner to hold conference call with GOP members at 8:30 p.m.
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They've already folded.
Now it remains to be seen just how much voters care.
Odds are...they don't care much.
Call the Tea Party dead. Great! I donât care if there is a tea party. But I do care about their ideas that are still very much alive and will be for many years to come.
The best âTea Partyâ idea is what that Rick Santelli originally stated. I was listening to Rick Santelli during his famous heated rant which went something like this âWhy does Washington think I have to pay for my neighborâs house because he screwed up. Individuals like him who purchase high-risk mortgages (and faced impending foreclosure as a consequence) are "losers". And I shouldnât be stuck paying for their debtâ¦â
Hand outs are the central issue with debt. Why is the average voter/taxpayer stuck with paying for anyone looking for a hand out? Cutting 2 trillion isnât going to make this problem to go away. We have 15% of this country on welfare in one form another. Then there are entitlements like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid⦠and the list goes on and on. Then there is Military spending. None of these have not had a whisper of reform for fear of pissing these people off or cutting their jobs before the next election. Remember government money is there to buy votes and to keep the same people in governement in power.
All we are doing is kicking the can down the road with each debt ceiling. Maybe you are right and voters are wonât care. But the real government problems have now been touched and will some day explode. That is when the real austerity will come and I expect riots in the streets like Greece when the money runs out. The debt clock is ticking and is attached to dynamite...
The best âTea Partyâ idea is what that Rick Santelli originally stated. I was listening to Rick Santelli during his famous heated rant which went something like this âWhy does Washington think I have to pay for my neighborâs house because he screwed up. Individuals like him who purchase high-risk mortgages (and faced impending foreclosure as a consequence) are "losers". And I shouldnât be stuck paying for their debtâ¦â
Hand outs are the central issue with debt. Why is the average voter/taxpayer stuck with paying for anyone looking for a hand out? Cutting 2 trillion isnât going to make this problem to go away. We have 15% of this country on welfare in one form another. Then there are entitlements like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid⦠and the list goes on and on. Then there is Military spending. None of these have not had a whisper of reform for fear of pissing these people off or cutting their jobs before the next election. Remember government money is there to buy votes and to keep the same people in governement in power.
All we are doing is kicking the can down the road with each debt ceiling. Maybe you are right and voters are wonât care. But the real government problems have now been touched and will some day explode. That is when the real austerity will come and I expect riots in the streets like Greece when the money runs out. The debt clock is ticking and is attached to dynamite...
They're not "their ideas". Ross Perot tried to fix this mess two decades ago, and voters shot him up. Ok, some of it was Ross being Ross, too.
And before him was the Concord Coalition, which completely failed to gain any meaningful traction with voters.The plain reality is that American voters have expressed over and over again that they like deficit spending, and that's what this "compromise" gives them. As long as that remains true, Perot or the Concord Coalition or the Tea Party or whatever name they cook up in the future will remain on the fringes.
I'm not saying I necessarily *like* it - but I'm not going to ignore the plain reality.
It is what it is....
This started long before Perot:
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain groundâ¦
Most bad government has grown out of too much governmentâ¦
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is libertyâ¦
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the firstâ¦
Tomas Jefferson
My quote:
If people do not act, then the government will sooner than later collapse of itâs own weight.
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain groundâ¦
Most bad government has grown out of too much governmentâ¦
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is libertyâ¦
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the firstâ¦
Tomas Jefferson
My quote:
If people do not act, then the government will sooner than later collapse of itâs own weight.
Quote from Random.Capital:
They're not "their ideas". Ross Perot tried to fix this mess two decades ago, and voters shot him up. Ok, some of it was Ross being Ross, too.
The plain reality is that American voters have expressed over and over again that they like deficit spending, and that's what this "compromise" gives them. As long as that remains true, Perot or the Concord Coalition or the Tea Party or whatever name they cook up in the future will remain on the fringes.
I'm not saying I necessarily *like* it - but I'm not going to ignore the plain reality.
It is what it is....