Joe just goes with the pre-approved list of reporters and pre-approved questions. Any eluding takes place well beforehand.
Joe Biden - The Fake President
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Joe just goes with the pre-approved list of reporters and pre-approved questions. Any eluding takes place well beforehand.
Joe's handlers certainly did their handling job when Joe was on his trip.
Opening remarks at his press meeting, and Joe had a teleprompter: Putin did not.
They did not want Joe going one on one with Vlad so his handlers kept them from being on the stage together. No indication that it would not have been fine with Vlad to go one on one.
They gave Joe a list of pre-approved reporters to call on at the presser. Vlad worked the room or at least did it without emphasizing that he has to call on who his staff says "or he will get in trouble."
Vlad took questions from both the American reporters and the international reporters. Joe just took questions from the Americans. Correct me if I am wrong. I think that is right.
However, lest you think all that handling was unnecessary, think again. As he was headed to his plane or the airport he took an unapproved but entirely appropriate question from a reporter and it went downhill very fast. Yup, there is a reason why he is surrounded by handlers.
What an idiot. A CNN reporter no less. He knows they are in the tank for him so he usually does not do his "get off my lawn" and shaking his fist routine with them.
Biden snaps at reporter over Putin question: 'You're in the wrong business'
President apologizes afterward for being 'such a wise guy'
President Biden snapped at a reporter at the end of his press conference Wednesday in Geneva after she asked why he was "confident" Russian President Vladimir Putin would change his previously malign behavior.
Biden, who was walking away after saying he was committed to freeing Americans imprisoned in Russia, whirled around at his questioner and said, "I'm not confident he'll change his behavior. What in the hell, what do you do all the time?"
As CNN's Kaitlan Collins tried to speak, Biden stuck up a finger and continued, "When did I say I was confident? Let's get this straight. I said what will change their behavior is if the rest of the world reacts to them and diminishes their standing in the world. I'm not confident of anything. I'm just stating a fact."
"But given his past behavior has not changed, and in that press conference after sitting down with you for several hours, [Putin] denied any involvement in cyber attacks, he downplayed human rights abuses, he even refused to say [Russian dissident] Alexei Navalny's name. So, how does that account to a constructive meeting?" Collins asked.
"If you don't understand that, you're in the wrong business," Biden said, before finally walking away.
Biden's angry response didn't sit well with some reporters.
"If you’re the most powerful person in the world and you can’t field questions from the media without losing your temper, maybe you’re in the wrong business," New York Magazine's Olivia Nuzzi tweeted afterward.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-snaps-reporter-over-putin-question-wrong-business
Opening remarks at his press meeting, and Joe had a teleprompter: Putin did not.
They did not want Joe going one on one with Vlad so his handlers kept them from being on the stage together. No indication that it would not have been fine with Vlad to go one on one.
They gave Joe a list of pre-approved reporters to call on at the presser. Vlad worked the room or at least did it without emphasizing that he has to call on who his staff says "or he will get in trouble."
Vlad took questions from both the American reporters and the international reporters. Joe just took questions from the Americans. Correct me if I am wrong. I think that is right.
However, lest you think all that handling was unnecessary, think again. As he was headed to his plane or the airport he took an unapproved but entirely appropriate question from a reporter and it went downhill very fast. Yup, there is a reason why he is surrounded by handlers.
What an idiot. A CNN reporter no less. He knows they are in the tank for him so he usually does not do his "get off my lawn" and shaking his fist routine with them.
Biden snaps at reporter over Putin question: 'You're in the wrong business'
President apologizes afterward for being 'such a wise guy'
President Biden snapped at a reporter at the end of his press conference Wednesday in Geneva after she asked why he was "confident" Russian President Vladimir Putin would change his previously malign behavior.
Biden, who was walking away after saying he was committed to freeing Americans imprisoned in Russia, whirled around at his questioner and said, "I'm not confident he'll change his behavior. What in the hell, what do you do all the time?"
As CNN's Kaitlan Collins tried to speak, Biden stuck up a finger and continued, "When did I say I was confident? Let's get this straight. I said what will change their behavior is if the rest of the world reacts to them and diminishes their standing in the world. I'm not confident of anything. I'm just stating a fact."
"But given his past behavior has not changed, and in that press conference after sitting down with you for several hours, [Putin] denied any involvement in cyber attacks, he downplayed human rights abuses, he even refused to say [Russian dissident] Alexei Navalny's name. So, how does that account to a constructive meeting?" Collins asked.
"If you don't understand that, you're in the wrong business," Biden said, before finally walking away.
Biden's angry response didn't sit well with some reporters.
"If you’re the most powerful person in the world and you can’t field questions from the media without losing your temper, maybe you’re in the wrong business," New York Magazine's Olivia Nuzzi tweeted afterward.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-snaps-reporter-over-putin-question-wrong-business
Wrong. Biden set the terms of the summit all of the way through. He was the first president Putin actually showed up on time to meet and Biden refused a joint press conference because he didn’t want to get caught up in the clownery like Trump did. I’m sure you loved Putin’s recruiting message because it was tailored for you. Hate America, overthrow the government, suppress free speech, and turn your country into a shithole Tralee park.
Ohh yeah Putin got those really hard questions from state media in Russia. Not. Of course Biden didn’t engage the KGB press in Russia. The whole “press” over there is a scam. But as a regular Sputnik reader you probably can’t comprehend that.
I’m sure Putin is loving the right wing in America promoting a Russia first agenda.
Wrong again. Setting terms is a strong move. And notifying Putin of sectors that will initiate a response is smart. There’s no ambiguity there. Putin knows if Russia acts in a certain manner he is inviting countermeasures.
Here is one more proof of extreme liberal media trying their hardest to prop up, Usurper-in-Chief, Joe Biden. This guy keeps embarassing himself. Go back into your cave Joe. Save yourself from the humiliation. Those allowed to interview him have to come from a select list. I guess, the answers to the interview questions have to be provided by extreme liberal media as well. Oh, and don't forget the teleprompter and an ear piece to tell Joe Biden what to say. After all, he might forget and keep stammering and yammering without sense. LOL
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-mocked-putin-meeting-calling-084529866.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-mocked-putin-meeting-calling-084529866.html
A big loss for Putin
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/opinions/putin-geneva-summit-big-loss-ghitis/index.html
The visuals, the body language and the setting all converged to help President Joe Biden achieve what he wanted — not only from his much-hyped summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin — but from a week of pivotal meetings with US allies.
From the start of the Geneva summit, Biden looked confident and relaxed. In contrast, Putin, who has made an art of appearing smug and almost bored, looked tense and on his guard. Then Biden took the initiative, extending his hand first to Putin, who walked over to grasp it.
The summit mattered, of course, but it was in the dueling press conferences where Putin helped Biden achieve his objectives. That's because Biden's meeting with Putin had two goals. One was about managing US relations with Russia. The other was the overarching theme of his European trip and, in fact, of Biden's presidency: strengthening democracy by drawing a sharp distinction between it and authoritarianism, all the while persuading the world that democracy is the superior model.
In his press conference, Putin, in true autocratic form, took responsibility for nothing and tried ham-handedly to defend himself from accusations of human rights abuses by highlighting social problems in the United States. Perhaps after years of repressing an independent media in Russia, he has lost his ability to answer tough questions, such as those asked by American journalists.
"If all of your political opponents are dead, in prison, poisoned" an ABC News reporter asked, "doesn't that send a message that you don't want a fair political fight?" But Putin, once again, sidestepped the question, comparing January 6 insurrectionists in the US with democratic dissidents his government is repressing in Russia — a comparison Biden rightly called "ridiculous."
While Putin answered every question about repression and human rights with his classic whataboutism, talking about all that's wrong with the US, Biden, when he spoke to the media, explained that he told Putin his agenda is "not against Russia" but "for the American people" — adding that means he still has a responsibility to speak about human rights.
Critics said Biden erred by raising Putin's standing with a global summit. After all, Putin is the autocratic leader of a shrinking economy a little bigger than Spain's and a per capita income smaller than Costa Rica's. But Russia, a nuclear armed country, has become an active enemy of democracy in the West. It works to discredit the system and make it dysfunctional. And it has succeeded to such an extent that much of the Republican Party now propagates the kind of disinformation Russian hackers used to have to work hard to pump.
By meeting with Putin, and letting him showcase his signature evasive style, Biden was able to use the Russian president as a prop — a show-and-tell for his campaign to demonstrate that authoritarianism is a malign force.
Yes, the two leaders reached some agreements, such as allowing withdrawn ambassadors to return to their assigned capitals and committing to launching a "strategic dialogue" to prevent an accidental war. They will also seek progress on nuclear arms control, possible prisoner releases and other areas.
Still, overall, the meeting was a loss for Putin, who sounded defensive and cryptic. He refused to utter opposition leader Alexei Navalny's name, blaming him for his own predicament amid a slew of falsehoods, and he denied any responsibility for recent cyberattacks in the US.
And yet, he went out of his way to say he respects Biden, calling him "an experienced statesman... very different from President Trump" — a comparison sure to hurt his predecessor.
Biden looked satisfied when it was all over, appearing convinced that he had drawn some clear red lines in the roughly 160 minutes of face-to-face meetings.
The visual contrast could not have been sharper from the last US-Russia summit, the Russian president so self-satisfied, the US president, looking cowed and making such counterproductive comments that Trump's own adviser at the time, Fiona Hill, said she considered faking a medical emergency — "a loud blood-curdling scream" — to make it stop. Instead of the acquiescent, slumping former president, Biden looked invigorated against the bright outdoor backdrop. He explained why it's important for the two countries to work together where possible and to try to manage their differences when they can't.
Biden said he gave Putin a list of 16 key American entities — defined as critical infrastructure — that are off-limits for cyberattacks. As he prepared to leave, a reporter asked him if a "military response" by the United States would be an option for a ransomware attack. His answer: "We didn't discuss a military response." However, if Navalny dies in prison, Biden warned, "the consequences of that would be devastating for Russia."
In what looked like a slip up, the US president did lose his temper near the end of his presser. CNN's Kaitlan Collins had asked why he's confident Putin will change his behavior, and Biden snapped back, "I'm not confident he'll change his behavior." He later said he shouldn't have been "such a wise guy" and owed Collins an apology.
Putin may have felt he secured the image he craves, that of an equal to the United States. But widen the lens beyond Geneva, beyond Russia, and this summit was a part of a larger Biden agenda.
"I did what I came to do," he declared before heading back home.
And with that, Biden wrapped up his first international trip, having started the process of fortifying the alliances Trump had eroded, raising the world's trust in US leadership and successfully drawing a contrast between an autocratic, repressive leader — in power because he has crushed his opponents — and a democratically elected one, battling the anti-democratic forces at home and abroad.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/opinions/putin-geneva-summit-big-loss-ghitis/index.html
The visuals, the body language and the setting all converged to help President Joe Biden achieve what he wanted — not only from his much-hyped summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin — but from a week of pivotal meetings with US allies.
From the start of the Geneva summit, Biden looked confident and relaxed. In contrast, Putin, who has made an art of appearing smug and almost bored, looked tense and on his guard. Then Biden took the initiative, extending his hand first to Putin, who walked over to grasp it.
The summit mattered, of course, but it was in the dueling press conferences where Putin helped Biden achieve his objectives. That's because Biden's meeting with Putin had two goals. One was about managing US relations with Russia. The other was the overarching theme of his European trip and, in fact, of Biden's presidency: strengthening democracy by drawing a sharp distinction between it and authoritarianism, all the while persuading the world that democracy is the superior model.
In his press conference, Putin, in true autocratic form, took responsibility for nothing and tried ham-handedly to defend himself from accusations of human rights abuses by highlighting social problems in the United States. Perhaps after years of repressing an independent media in Russia, he has lost his ability to answer tough questions, such as those asked by American journalists.
"If all of your political opponents are dead, in prison, poisoned" an ABC News reporter asked, "doesn't that send a message that you don't want a fair political fight?" But Putin, once again, sidestepped the question, comparing January 6 insurrectionists in the US with democratic dissidents his government is repressing in Russia — a comparison Biden rightly called "ridiculous."
While Putin answered every question about repression and human rights with his classic whataboutism, talking about all that's wrong with the US, Biden, when he spoke to the media, explained that he told Putin his agenda is "not against Russia" but "for the American people" — adding that means he still has a responsibility to speak about human rights.
Critics said Biden erred by raising Putin's standing with a global summit. After all, Putin is the autocratic leader of a shrinking economy a little bigger than Spain's and a per capita income smaller than Costa Rica's. But Russia, a nuclear armed country, has become an active enemy of democracy in the West. It works to discredit the system and make it dysfunctional. And it has succeeded to such an extent that much of the Republican Party now propagates the kind of disinformation Russian hackers used to have to work hard to pump.
By meeting with Putin, and letting him showcase his signature evasive style, Biden was able to use the Russian president as a prop — a show-and-tell for his campaign to demonstrate that authoritarianism is a malign force.
Yes, the two leaders reached some agreements, such as allowing withdrawn ambassadors to return to their assigned capitals and committing to launching a "strategic dialogue" to prevent an accidental war. They will also seek progress on nuclear arms control, possible prisoner releases and other areas.
Still, overall, the meeting was a loss for Putin, who sounded defensive and cryptic. He refused to utter opposition leader Alexei Navalny's name, blaming him for his own predicament amid a slew of falsehoods, and he denied any responsibility for recent cyberattacks in the US.
And yet, he went out of his way to say he respects Biden, calling him "an experienced statesman... very different from President Trump" — a comparison sure to hurt his predecessor.
Biden looked satisfied when it was all over, appearing convinced that he had drawn some clear red lines in the roughly 160 minutes of face-to-face meetings.
The visual contrast could not have been sharper from the last US-Russia summit, the Russian president so self-satisfied, the US president, looking cowed and making such counterproductive comments that Trump's own adviser at the time, Fiona Hill, said she considered faking a medical emergency — "a loud blood-curdling scream" — to make it stop. Instead of the acquiescent, slumping former president, Biden looked invigorated against the bright outdoor backdrop. He explained why it's important for the two countries to work together where possible and to try to manage their differences when they can't.
Biden said he gave Putin a list of 16 key American entities — defined as critical infrastructure — that are off-limits for cyberattacks. As he prepared to leave, a reporter asked him if a "military response" by the United States would be an option for a ransomware attack. His answer: "We didn't discuss a military response." However, if Navalny dies in prison, Biden warned, "the consequences of that would be devastating for Russia."
In what looked like a slip up, the US president did lose his temper near the end of his presser. CNN's Kaitlan Collins had asked why he's confident Putin will change his behavior, and Biden snapped back, "I'm not confident he'll change his behavior." He later said he shouldn't have been "such a wise guy" and owed Collins an apology.
Putin may have felt he secured the image he craves, that of an equal to the United States. But widen the lens beyond Geneva, beyond Russia, and this summit was a part of a larger Biden agenda.
"I did what I came to do," he declared before heading back home.
And with that, Biden wrapped up his first international trip, having started the process of fortifying the alliances Trump had eroded, raising the world's trust in US leadership and successfully drawing a contrast between an autocratic, repressive leader — in power because he has crushed his opponents — and a democratically elected one, battling the anti-democratic forces at home and abroad.
No, Biden's handlers did. Joe just goes where his Visiting Angel leads him.
In regard to who controlled what in regard to preconditions, it is a bullshit discussion. Joe's people had all sorts of reasons for needing to control things. Meanwhile Vlad already got what he wanted from Joe (refer to pipeline, exoneration of Putin on hacking, etc, etc) before he went. You think Vlad needed to rock that boat? Putin had all of his needs met before he even went.
Ditto for the Europeans. Joe had already given them what they wanted in advance so what difference does any of the jousting make except to forum bloviators.
Did you not listen to Joe's little lecture on what foreign relations is? You just figure out what others need to hear in order to have them like you and then you just start right in giving them what they want.
Santa Claus Joe. It will be the same with the northern triangle, with Iran, China, with North Korea or whatever. If Joe goes there, you try to make him look ballsy all you want by saying how commanding he looked or whatever. Meanwhile, those guys had what they wanted before he showed up.
Can you spell "kabuki dance" boys and girls.
This is the same fucking clueless idiot that exonerated Putin of any knowledge or involvement in the colonial pipeland attack in less than 24 hours after it happened. No one on the planet - unless they are a total idiot- believes that the hackers on that were not known and sanctioned by the russian government even if they do not appear on a russian government organizational chart.
As, I said, Putin already has what he wants in advance in regard to any bullshit meet and greet summits. He wanted that pipleline bigtime too. He is like a guy showing up at the lottery office to pick up his check and you are a lottery official laying down some rules about when it must be cashed and how you must confirm that you consulted with a tax advisor in advisor. Vlad is thinking "Ya whatever, lay it on me. I already know I got my check."
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