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The first requirement for an audit firm is that they must disclose their methods. The contract for this Arizona effort actually states they must disclose their methods but the company is trying to keep everything secret. How can anyone have any confidence in their "audit results" if the company will not reveal how they came to those results.

Firm seeks to to have methods for Arizona ballot audit kept secret
https://tucson.com/news/state-and-r...cle_812aea22-a6b3-11eb-988a-cf2bed9e8bb7.html

The attorney for the firm hired by the Arizona Senate to audit the 2020 election is trying to deny public access to the policies and procedures it is using to audit the returns.

And Alexander Kolodin who represents Cyber Ninjas, also contends the firm is not required to ensure that the 2.1 million ballots they have are being reviewed by bipartisan teams.

In new legal filings, Kolodin said he is providing the information demanded last week by Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Christopher Coury after the Arizona Democratic Party filed suit. That ranges from how the company ensures the chain of custody for the 2.1 million ballots it now has as well as the election equipment turned over by Maricopa County to issues of signature verification.

Kolodin contends it is not in the public interest to let Arizonans see them.

“It is no secret that this audit is an emotional issue,” Kolodin wrote. “There exists a subset of individuals that might utilize such documents as a roadmap to breach the audit’s security and thereby cause the very harms (the Democratic Party) ostensibly seek to prevent.”

Anyway, he argued, the documents about the firm’s practices contain “trade secrets.”

The move is drawing opposition from the First Amendment Coalition which represents various media organizations.

In his own legal filing, attorney Dan Barr said there is a presumption that all records, including those produced in litigation, are public.

He acknowledged there are some exceptions. But Barr said the claim by Cyber Ninjas that all of its policies constitute trade secrets holds no water.

If there are valid concerns, he said, the company could file a redacted version, with all the secrets blacked out, with a full version filed with that court. That, Barr said, would let a judge determine if any of this really needs to be withheld from the public.

“It is difficult to conceive of a case that warrants transparency more than this one,” he wrote, noting that Cyber Ninjas is a private firm which has “unfettered access” to the ballots and to information about Maricopa County voters.

“The public, especially 2.1 million Maricopa County voters, has a personal stake in knowing how Cyber Ninjas handles their personal information, including names, addresses, and signatures and whether their fundamental right to have their vote remain secret shall be preserved,” Barr wrote. “The public also maintains an exceedingly important interest in knowing that the integrity of the election and their votes will not be compromised.”

And Barr said this is especially critical given that Cyber Ninjas has never conducted an election audit and that Doug Logan, its CEO, has “a history of overt partisanship in favor of the presidential candidate who lost the election.”

All this comes amid questions about how the audit is being conducted.

The Democratic Party lawsuit contends that the processes being used by Cyber Ninjas to review the ballots and the election equipment violates various election laws. It’s attorney, Roopali Desai, wants a judge to halt the process unless and until the company — and the Senate which hired it — can show there are safeguards in place to protect the security of the ballots and the equipment.

That question of how the audit is being conducted and whether it is fair also figure into Kolodin’s claim that Cyber Ninjas is not required to have bipartisan panels review the ballots they are counting.

Kolodin acknowledged that state law requires the election boards that review ballots to have “as equal as practicable representation of the members of the two largest parties” on these review panels.

But Kolodin said that, as far as his client is concerned, that doesn’t apply.

“Cyber Ninjas, however, is not an election board and has not been hired to conduct an election for the purpose of declaring candidates elected or not elected,” he wrote. Instead, Kolodin said, the firm was hired to develop a report for the Senate about the conduct of the 2020 election, information he said the Senate can use to decide whether to enact changes to the law.

And Kolodin said, his client can’t make such decisions.

“Unlike a board of elections, Cyber Ninjas, as a government contractor, and like a government in other contexts, does not believe it is required, or even permitted, to make hiring decisions on the basis of political affiliation,” he said.

Anyway, Kolodin said, finding Democrats has proven difficult after Raquel Teran, who chairs the party, announced that it would not participate in what it sees as “sham audits.”

“The Arizona Democratic Party certainly has a First Amendment right to instruct its members not to participate in the audit,” he said. Yet at the same time, Kolodin noted, the party filed suit seeking to halt the audit because it was not being conducted in a lawful manner.

“Seeking to have this court compel equal representation of Democrats on the counting floor while working to make that impossible is not good faith litigation conduct,” he said. And it can’t be used to stop the audit until it meets certain standards.

A hearing had been scheduled Monday to address the issues. But that was before Coury, the judge, realized that one of the attorneys working with Kolodin had done some work with his office.

Coury disqualified himself. And the case was reassigned to Judge Daniel Martin who is expected to hold a hearing at 11 a.m. Tuesday.

You missed my point entirely. Like, completely.
 
You missed my point entirely. Like, completely.

Any audit from a firm that refuses to reveal its methods, has no auditing experience, and is run by a CEO who openly promotes "election fraud" conspiracy theories has no integrity.

That is the entire point.

There are multiple mainstream auditing firms with lengthy experience who reveal their methods who would have been happy to take this government contract to provide a proper election audit.
 
There are multiple mainstream auditing firms with lengthy experience who reveal their methods who would have been happy
How do you know that? Did you talk to them? Did a mainstream auditing firm make a public statement that it wanted the contract?

Or, are you just making shit up?
 
Any audit from a firm that refuses to reveal its methods, has no auditing experience, and is run by a CEO who openly promotes "election fraud" conspiracy theories has no integrity.

That is the entire point.

There are multiple mainstream auditing firms with lengthy experience who reveal their methods who would have been happy to take this government contract to provide a proper election audit.

No, that's not the point I was trying to make. Its like you don't even read people's posts before trying to act like the authority on every subject in every thread.

The point I was trying to make was if you make it so anyone who agrees to consider doing the audit faces immediate cancellation and chastisement then the only people you're going to get to agree are the ones that folks like you don't consider to be official, because everyone else is afraid to.

That's your game. You do it on COVID, and everything else you disagree with. You don't debate or discuss - you just alienate, discredit and attack the character of people. Someone should cancel YOU. See how you like it. You're lucky I'm not that type of guy.
 
How do you know that? Did you talk to them? Did a mainstream auditing firm make a public statement that it wanted the contract?

Or, are you just making shit up?

First -- let's make it clear there are four auditing firms involved in the Arizona audit.

Arizona Senate hires 4 companies to audit 2020 Maricopa County election
https://ktar.com/story/4242211/ariz...anies-to-audit-2020-maricopa-county-election/

As reported by the press there were 20 companies showing interest in trying to be selected to be on the short list to run or be involved with the audit -- Earlier this year the Arizona Senate had previously picked other companies proposed by County officials to run the audit earlier before dismissing these mainstream firms in February after being pressured to change them by Trump supporters in the GOP ranks.

Two well-known professional election auditing firms put in firm official bids...neither of these firms were selected.


Fann passes on experienced auditor, picks cheapest
https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2021/04/23/fann-passes-on-experienced-auditor-picks-cheapest/

"The records request revealed only two firms that put in an official offer – neither of which was Cyber Ninjas, the group Fann ultimately selected. Clear Ballot Group, a Massachusetts firm that has conducted election audits in several states, including a statewide audit in Maryland and Vermont, offered to do the audit within six weeks for $415,000."

As noted in the first article Maricopa County previously hired two firms to perform an audit that was completed in February -- so the equipment and sampling of ballots has already been audited.

"Last month, Maricopa County authorized an audit of its election equipment and software. It was completed by SLI Compliance and Pro V&V and didn’t reveal any irregularities, the county said on Feb. 23."

 
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No, that's not the point I was trying to make. Its like you don't even read people's posts before trying to act like the authority on every subject in every thread.

The point I was trying to make was if you make it so anyone who agrees to consider doing the audit faces immediate cancellation and chastisement then the only people you're going to get to agree are the ones that folks like you don't consider to be official, because everyone else is afraid to.

That's your game. You do it on COVID, and everything else you disagree with. You don't debate or discuss - you just alienate, discredit and attack the character of people. Someone should cancel YOU. See how you like it. You're lucky I'm not that type of guy.

If your sources have their posts flagged by fact checkers on both Twitter and Facebook as being FALSE INFORMATION. And their accounts are regularly being removed for promoting conspiracy nonsense --- then these sources should be discredited for being complete junk. There is no reason to debate complete nonsense that comes from conspiracy nutcases on FB, Twitter, Youtube, and blogs. It is time for you and others to get your information from reliable mainstream sources if you want to have a discussion. We are not going to debunk post after post saying "prove this wrong" as you put forward the latest conspiracy crap floating around the internet.

In the case of the Arizona election fraud audit... any audit being performed by a firm whose CEO regularly pushed off-the-wall election fraud conspiracy theories cannot be taken seriously. The entire charade is laughable.

My post directly above shows there was plenty of interest from mainstream election auditing firms in performing the Arizona election audit. Your claim that no mainstream firm would pick up this work because they are are afraid of being cancelled or chastised is quite amusing.

Let's take a look at some of the nonsense pushed by Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan...


from - https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2021/03/31/senate-hires-firms-to-audit-election-results/

Some of those start with the choice of Cyber Ninjas, a Florida firm founded by Doug Logan who remains chief executive officer, and who signed the contract with the Senate.

Deleted tweets by Logan unearthed by Arizona Mirror found messages linking him to some of the conspiracy theories that the election was stolen.

“The parallels between the statistical analysis of Venezuela and this year’s election are astonishing,” he wrote in one, a reference to claims there was a link between the company and the family of now-deceased dictator Hugo Chavez. “I’m ashamed how few republicans are talking about it.”

He also has retweeted the comments of others saying there was election fraud.

And prior to the election, Logan, using the Twitter handle “@securityvoid”, spoke of why he supported Trump.


or we can just look at a broader summary about Doug Logan...

Owner of firm hired to conduct Arizona election audit promoted baseless election conspiracy theories
Cyber Ninjas is owned by Doug Logan, an active proponent of the "Stop the Steal" movement
https://www.salon.com/2021/04/02/ow...omoted-baseless-election-conspiracy-theories/

The owner of a Florida-based tech company, who promoted baseless claims about widespread election fraud, has been charged by the Arizona state Senate with heading a recount of the 2.1 million general election votes in Maricopa County.

The company, Cyber Ninjas, will be leading three other firms – Wake Technology Services, Digital Discovery and CyFIR – to carry out a comprehensive audit and full hand recount. According to the firm's website, it "specializes in all areas of application security, ranging from your traditional web application to mobile or thick client applications. Within these disciplines, we offer ethical hacking, training and general consulting."

The Arizona Senate stated in a Wednesday press release that "the scope of work will include, but is not limited to, scanning all the ballots, a full manual recount, auditing the registration and votes cast, the vote counts and the electronic voting system."

Cyber Ninjas is owned by Doug Logan, an active proponent of the "Stop the Steal" movement.


Back in January, Logan was revealed to be an expert witness in a lawsuit filed by an Arizona man alleging systematic fraud in Antrim County, Mich., a claim pushed as a result of a brief glitch in the state's ballot-counting software that temporarily switched vote totals between the former and current president.

In the month prior, Logan spread claims of election fraud on social media. Though he deleted his account in January, archives show a pattern of pushing baseless election conspiracies.

"I'm tired of hearing people say there was no fraud. It happened, it's real, and people better get wise fast," read a post he retweeted on Dec. 31.

"The parallels between the statistical analysis of Venezuela and this year's election are astonishing," Logan also wrote in a December post.

Another post he shared in that same month said, "With all due respect, if you can't see the blatant cheating, [sic] malfeasence and outright voter fraud, then you are ignorant or lying."

According to AZ Mirror, Logan also retweeted posts by Ron Watkins, a known QAnon conspiracy theorist who was believed by many to be behind the Q account. Watkins alleged that Trump may have 200,000 more votes than was reported in the general election.


Following the election, Logan cast doubt over the structural integrity of Dominion, a voting technology firm used to count ballots in the 2020 election, and retweeted a comment written by attorney Sideny Powell, who filed several lawsuits challenging the results in Arizona and is currently being sued by Dominion for defamation.

Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican who selected Logan to lead the audit, has not commented on any concerns regarding Logan's past rhetoric. State Sen. Warren Peterson, a Republican, came to Logan's defense, insisting that "retweets are not endorsements."

"He didn't tell us the election was fraudulent," Peterson added.

Last month, the county commissioned a limited audit of its tabulation machines and found that they had been working properly. Additionally, a hand count of 8,100 indicated a 100% match with the count facilitated by Dominion voting machines.

"Our voters expect this audit, and it can be a big step in returning trust and confidence in our election process," Fann said earlier this month on the new audit.

State Democrats, however, remain less convinced.

"This entire charade is only keeping the flame of fraud lit, and we've seen how gaslighting voters into thinking their election was stolen has to end," state Sen. Rebecca Rios, the Senate minority leader, said.

Of course for further reading on Doug Logan you can read the following from Arizona local press.

Election auditor wrote ‘election fraud facts’ report for GOP senators who tried to overturn the 2020 election
https://www.azmirror.com/2021/04/09...wrote-fraud-claims-on-kraken-lawyers-website/

Arizona Senate hires a ‘Stop the Steal’ advocate to lead 2020 election audit
https://www.azmirror.com/2021/03/31...e-steal-advocate-to-lead-2020-election-audit/
 
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f you are Australian thinking that you can fend off the Chinese and the Americans are in the background with the big stick, think again. You are on your own. Maybe New Zealand's air force can help out if their one plane is not busy or subcontracted out to FedEx.

As I have discussed in several earlier posts, the Aussies are going to be big losers if Biden is elected. They were late to the game in standing up to China and realizing that they needed to stop the Chinese influence in Australia and stand up to the threats from China.

But as I said, if Joe is elected, they are on their own and the Chinese know it. Trump liked to fight with the Aussies over stuff, it was what he did, but he did have their back. Joe will not spat with them but neither will he help them in their issues with Chinese aggression. He is too busy selling this country out to China.


Australian official warns drums of war are beating
https://nypost.com/2021/04/27/australian-official-warns-drums-of-war-are-beating/


 
First -- let's make it clear there are four auditing firms involved in the Arizona audit.

Arizona Senate hires 4 companies to audit 2020 Maricopa County election
https://ktar.com/story/4242211/ariz...anies-to-audit-2020-maricopa-county-election/

As reported by the press there were 20 companies showing interest in trying to be selected to be on the short list to run or be involved with the audit -- Earlier this year the Arizona Senate had previously picked other companies proposed by County officials to run the audit earlier before dismissing these mainstream firms in February after being pressured to change them by Trump supporters in the GOP ranks.

Two well-known professional election auditing firms put in firm official bids...neither of these firms were selected.


Fann passes on experienced auditor, picks cheapest
https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2021/04/23/fann-passes-on-experienced-auditor-picks-cheapest/

"The records request revealed only two firms that put in an official offer – neither of which was Cyber Ninjas, the group Fann ultimately selected. Clear Ballot Group, a Massachusetts firm that has conducted election audits in several states, including a statewide audit in Maryland and Vermont, offered to do the audit within six weeks for $415,000."

As noted in the first article Maricopa County previously hired two firms to perform an audit that was completed in February -- so the equipment and sampling of ballots has already been audited.

"Last month, Maricopa County authorized an audit of its election equipment and software. It was completed by SLI Compliance and Pro V&V and didn’t reveal any irregularities, the county said on Feb. 23."
It's easy to tell when you're over the target.
 
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