Jim Crammer's got Covid and he wants to buy stocks now at the dip

[JSOP]

My uneducated understanding is that there is a very simple reason. Emergency Use Authorization. This is a bug in the system (as pointed out by Ben Carson.) Basically, the incentives align against adjuvant treatments because the vaccines then lose EUA status.

Therefore, there has been a VERY STRONG PUSH to avoid alternatives because if it can be shown that an alternative exists, the vaccines (and thus the gravy train) stop. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I might even say that protocols for which the government reimburses hospitals are designed to create more deaths.

That's why every new drug for covid is aiming for EUA. I can almost guarantee you that those which show promise in clinical trials will not be approved outside of EUA for similar reasons.

That bug needs to be fixed ASAP, but if it is fixed then:

1. Life gets back to normal because there are effective alternatives - petty tyrants don't really want this
2. The obscene profits stop - $PFE and $MRNA do not want this

My 2c, would love to hear otherwise.

Yeah but that's dumb. Like I said, something will truly be "fixed" when there is both preventative measures, vaccines and adjuvant options, treatments. It's ridiculous to think that just because there are vaccines, we won't need treatments. There is actually no diseases in the world that were ever eliminated by vaccines alone and that has never stopped the "gravy train" of vaccines. For pharmaceutical companies, they make money either way really whether it's vaccines or adjuvant treatments I would think.

EUA has nothing to do with it. EUA just has to do with the urgency of the situation and it's been issued for both vaccines and adjuvant treatments.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

Yeah but that's dumb. Like I said, something will truly be "fixed" when there is both preventative measures, vaccines and adjuvant options, treatments. It's ridiculous to think that just because there are vaccines, we won't need treatments. There is actually no diseases in the world that were ever eliminated by vaccines alone and that has never stopped the "gravy train" of vaccines. For pharmaceutical companies, they make money either way really whether it's vaccines or adjuvant treatments I would think.

EUA has nothing to do with it. EUA just has to do with the urgency of the situation and it's been issued for both vaccines and adjuvant treatments.

Then to what do you attribute the lack of alternative treatments?

 

[JSOP]

Then to what do you attribute the lack of alternative treatments?

Over-estimation in the effectiveness of vaccines and under-estimating the speed and ability of mutation of the coronavirus as well as the human stubbornness and stupidity in vaccine reluctance.

 

[volpri]

Then to what do you attribute the lack of alternative treatments?

There are such treatments But not sufficient $$$$ in them IMO.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

Over-estimation in the effectiveness of vaccines and under-estimating the speed and ability of mutation of the coronavirus as well as the human stubbornness and stupidity in vaccine reluctance.

This information has been known for a LONG LONG time. So the question is then: why has it not been internalized into the politics/process?

 

[MKTrader]

So are the mainstream media going to start saying that the vaccines don't prevent infection? Which some have been saying for a very long time. And if that is the case, then should we be focusing our energy on therapeutics that don't prevent infection or therapeutics that are proven to reduce adverse effects while being completely safe like antibody treatments?

I know which side things are going to fall on but I hold out hope that these dummies start #FollowingTheScience at some fucking point.

Jenn "Circle Back" Psaki, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, Cramer...all these self-righteous, multi-vaxxed people getting COVID. Cramer also called for universal vaxxing with the miliary enforcing it. He's beyond mad at this point. Between that and his terrible track record calling stocks, I don't know why anyone listens to him.

 

[VEGASDESERT]

cramer and carl quintanilla both have 3 shots, both have covid.

idk, i dont think vaccine stops the spread..

 

[ktm]

My uneducated understanding is that there is a very simple reason. Emergency Use Authorization. This is a bug in the system (as pointed out by Ben Carson.) Basically, the incentives align against adjuvant treatments because the vaccines then lose EUA status.

Therefore, there has been a VERY STRONG PUSH to avoid alternatives because if it can be shown that an alternative exists, the vaccines (and thus the gravy train) stop. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I might even say that protocols for which the government reimburses hospitals are designed to create more deaths.

That's why every new drug for covid is aiming for EUA. I can almost guarantee you that those which show promise in clinical trials will not be approved outside of EUA for similar reasons.

That bug needs to be fixed ASAP, but if it is fixed then:

1. Life gets back to normal because there are effective alternatives - petty tyrants don't really want this
2. The obscene profits stop - $PFE and $MRNA do not want this

My 2c, would love to hear otherwise.

You call this an "uneducated understanding" but it appears to be an astute observation to me. The vaccine is indeed a therapeutic. All the political bungling, broken promises, outright lies and general bullshit have done decades of harm to actual science.

 

[JSOP]

This information has been known for a LONG LONG time. So the question is then: why has it not been internalized into the politics/process?

Because we live in a democracy. To internalize this vaccine reluctance would be to require mandatory vaccination for every single eligible adult healthy enough to receive vaccinations, a vaccination officer accompanied by military personnel coming to your door giving you vaccination. Would you want that? No.

 

[nooby_mcnoob]

Because we live in a democracy. To internalize this vaccine reluctance would be to require mandatory vaccination for every single eligible adult healthy enough to receive vaccinations, a vaccination officer accompanied by military personnel coming to your door giving you vaccination. Would you want that? No.

I was referring more to the initial thrust of your message where you said:

Over-estimation in the effectiveness of vaccines and under-estimating the speed and ability of mutation of the coronavirus

Why hasn't this been made internal to the process...