"JEWS KILLED THE LORD JESUS"

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Having read the entire thread, I notice that each contributor has a truism or a kind of "truth" to offer. The quarrels arise because the truth is fragmented in a way that each has a part of it, but none have all of it...at least in their current state of awareness. And this is parabolic of the broken Son of God, who has confused himself through the "sin" of self-denial.

In an attempt to bring peace, I will start from the beginning and emphasize the true/truth/truism that each has contributed...and then put it into perspective. In the end, you will see how all the pieces fit together to re-create a seemless whole. In the assembly of the whole, each is reliant upon each one's contribution in order for the Truth to make sense again to those who have made nonsense of it.

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Oh, my friend I am or is it I am that I am?

I was getting concerned. You are one of the central figures in this thread, and we didn't hear from you.

I thought someone managed to kill Jesus? What blasphemy?

I know some will say that I am going straight to hell for that remark.

But how could I go straight to hell when I am in hell already?


You think you are so smart? I got my black belt in Madness 33 years ago. You are still in Madness and you haven't progressed.
What comes after Madness? And don't tell me Double Madness.
I commend you though for reaching the first rung of Enlightment!

“Madness is to think of too many things in succession too fast, or of one thing too exclusively” -- Voltaire
“There is no genius free from some tincture of madness” -- Seneca
“Madness is rare in individuals, but in groups, parties, nations and ages it is the rule” -- Friedrich Nietzche
Madness is the first stage towards prophecy. (Hebrew Testament)
 
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you are deluded , as you say LeapUp is.
Deluded by the same thing, just in a different way.

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And which way is that?
Ok, I get it now because of those evil quotations I brought forth in this discussion.
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No. You seem to have missed my point.
From what you say, it is apparent the same principle delusion is being held by LeapUp and yourself.
The way you both react to the same delusion appears different that's all.
My point was, you misguidedly accused him of being deluded only because he does't respond to that delusion in the way you do.
 
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LeapUp is deluded alright, but what you are saying is not fair either.

They (some priests) rape little boys AGAINST His name.
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nope. if god is omnipotent logic dictates that everything that happens has his blessing.
 
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nope. if god is omnipotent logic dictates that everything that happens has his blessing.
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That is only if you believe that outside of the Prime Mover no other beings are capable of possessing Free Will.

Just because another being possesses Free Will does not contradict the Omnipotence Attribute of the Prime Mover.
 
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That is only if you believe that outside of the Prime Mover no other beings are capable of possessing Free Will.

Just because another being possesses Free Will does not contradict the Omnipotence Attribute of the Prime Mover.
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if another being,say a satan, is able to do things the prime mover disaproves of the prime mover is then not omnipotent.
 
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No. You seem to have missed my point.
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You have a point outside of your Harry Potter fairy tale Stu?

It has been a while since I studied the Guide of the Perplexed so I don't see it.

Help me out here I am. What is his point?

I am amazed though in your perspicacity Stu in determining that LeapUp was a male and not a female!
 
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if another being,say a satan, is able to do things the prime mover disaproves of the prime mover is then not omnipotent.
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Correct!

But then there can not exist a prime mover.
 
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You're smoking crack!!!
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Crack is not bad my dear, but I prefer pig, frogs, and horse.
How else do you think my teacher, Thich Quang Duc, was able to complete the act of self-immolation with complete composure?
It was all done through the use of drugs as the Catholic Diem government charged.
I can't give you the exact combination of drugs because that information is still classified.

Neat parlor trick guys -- isn't it?

http://www.thuvienhoasen.org/qd-tuongniem-23.htm
 
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Oh, my friend I am or is it I am that I am?

I was getting concerned. You are one of the central figures in this thread, and we didn't hear from you.

I thought someone managed to kill Jesus? What blasphemy?

I know some will say that I am going straight to hell for that remark.

But how could I go straight to hell when I am in hell already?


You think you are so smart? I got my black belt in Madness 33 years ago. You are still in Madness and you haven't progressed.
What comes after Madness? And don't tell me Double Madness.
I commend you though for reaching the first rung of Enlightment!

“Madness is to think of too many things in succession too fast, or of one thing too exclusively” -- Voltaire
“There is no genius free from some tincture of madness” -- Seneca
“Madness is rare in individuals, but in groups, parties, nations and ages it is the rule” -- Friedrich Nietzche
Madness is the first stage towards prophecy. (Hebrew Testament)
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Hell is a 'place' in the mind of the mistaken Son of God, driven mad by the concept of guilt. As is often said in the movie "What the bleep...", "how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go?" Madness is to depart from reality. Departure begins with the denial of Christ [reality] as Self. Self-concepts then take the place of Self, which cannot be killed. The concepts die, but also they don't, combining life with death, and true with false. They are all mad as hatters, and it is from insanity that Christ comes to save his own...mind.

There is no "place" for the son of man to lay his head, meaning, "place" is a concept that is not true. "Place" is not an attribute of reality, which encompasses everything without limits. The mad mind selects, out of "infinite possibilities" [more like infinite impossibilities], what it wants to see, and where. To some this is dazzling. To others this is baffling. Its all bullsh*t brought about by a brand of thinking unlike reality. The difference between the thought systems might be described as abstract vs specifics.

Jesus
 
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Correct!

But then there can not exist a prime mover.
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Correct. And to that effect, Christianity, as popularily percieved, promotes atheism. It stands for man. And if man is real, Christ is not.

Jesus
 
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