Good grief, man, the world powers don't give a crap about any of that.
Jesse Jackson's Memories of Mandela
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Good grief, man, the world powers don't give a crap about any of that.
for instance, there's a lot of people who still hate us for what we did, and they still hate the jews for what they did. For crying out loud, I still hate the Japanese for what they did. It would just be a day to reflect on burying hatchets. And understanding you will gain nothing from retribution or confiscation.
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i just find it "funny" that there are people saying we should have a holiday for him here, and that there are also people here in the US, who think VJ day is too offensive to celebrate. To anyone who agrees with this contradiction: get fucked. no, i won't be celebrating holiday's for foreigners. i mean what's next hugo chavez memorial statues in DC?
"i mean what's next hugo chavez memorial statues in DC? "
why not? that
+ a statue of juan peron of argentina. google him if you don't know what he stood for. obama's philosophy and outlook are the similar.
if it was up to me, you would have to spend 27 years in prison before you could run for President of the United States
10 isn't enough, because then you would come out like a mad dog
I don't know, must be something about those last 17 years that calm you down and get you thinking clearly
10 isn't enough, because then you would come out like a mad dog
I don't know, must be something about those last 17 years that calm you down and get you thinking clearly
what is it about Mandela you find so offensive and anti traditional American values?
right, I agree, that's sick, Mandela was a free market capitalist, so it will require quite an effort to convince the democrats that we should close the government one day a year to honor him.
Once again I must be the voice of reason. I'll leave it to those who choose to pontificate about the man as to whether his cause was just or not. The facts are these. Like our forefathers, he was a violent revolutionary in the beginning. He and his band killed many people. That's what war is. What's the difference between a revolutionary and a terrorist? His side won, that's what, and history always favors the victor.
In time, he became a more peace loving man. Old age does that to a man. Now he is revered as a peacemaker. Perhaps it is so. In any case, he made his mark in history. Those that choose can mourn his death as we should the death of most men, in silent contemplation of what we would have done given the same circumstances.
All that said, his name has no place as a national holiday in the United States of America.
I'll leave it to those who choose to pontificate about the man as to whether his cause was just or not. The facts are these. Like our forefathers, he was a violent revolutionary in the beginning. He and his band killed many people. That's what war is. What's the difference between a revolutionary and a terrorist? His side won, that's what, and history always favors the victor.In time, he became a more peace loving man. Old age does that to a man. Now he is revered as a peacemaker. Perhaps it is so. In any case, he made his mark in history. Those that choose can mourn his death as we should the death of most men, in silent contemplation of what we would have done given the same circumstances.
All that said, his name has no place as a national holiday in the United States of America.
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Once again I must be the voice of reason.
In time, he became a more peace loving man. Old age does that to a man. Now he is revered as a peacemaker. Perhaps it is so. In any case, he made his mark in history. Those that choose can mourn his death as we should the death of most men, in silent contemplation of what we would have done given the same circumstances.
All that said, his name has no place as a national holiday in the United States of America.
"History is written by the victor" - some dude