Jack Hershey's Books

[tampa]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Jack has made grandiose claims. Why is it rude or disrespectful to ask him the names of a few of the many books he says he's written? If you met him at a party and he said, I've written 30 books, wouldn't it be natural to ask what they were? And wouldn't you think it pretty odd if he refused to answer?

This really doesn't have anything to do with his trading ideas. He's under no obligation to explain those concepts at all, I agree. But it does go to the credibility of someone who says his methods are highly profitable. That's just common sense.

It seems to me that if one wanted to go to the core of Jack's credibility, one would discredit his trading ideas, rather than to harp on an irrelevant point.

Not one of his distracters have attempted in any way to disprove the validity of his methods, other than to say "I can't understand what he's saying.

This and all of the other "Jack Hershey" threads amount to childish attacks. They have NOTHING to do with trading, but are personal attacks - plain and simple.

 

[tampa]

Quote from wally_:



Tampa,

let me suggest that you face the reality. Yes, I know that it will be painful for you to finally realize that Jack is a fake guru, but perhaps it's better to do it sooner than later. Your totally uncritical attachment to Jack is a bit abnormal. You are simply refusing to see the light.

Best,
Wally

Please excuse my French, but wally, you are a jerk.

If and when I want advice on who to follow or who not to follow, I am sure that I could do better than you.

 

[nkhoi]

if he wrote any book then they weren't trading books.
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From: Jack Hershey (jhershey@primenet.com)
Subject: Re: For Jack Hershey
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Date: 2000/06/02


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[pvTrader]

Suppose I'm learning to play chess, and I'm chatting with fellow players on a messageboard. I post a message asking for help on my technique. I wonder out loud, "How can I master this game?"

Suddenly, a man comes along, telling us that he is 70 years old. Then he tells us that he's one of the best chess players in the world. Not only that, he is well-travelled (citing his various exploits in exotic foreign lands), well connected (dropping hints that he has worked personally with a few US presidents), and an accomplished author (stating that he has written 30 books on various scientific subjects).

Naturally, one's ear perks up due to his illustrious life and accomplishments.

Next, he offers advice on chess strategies and tactics. He describes a "simple" chess opening that he guarantees will make you a world champion (like him) if you study and comprehend the intricacies. Thirsting for knowledge, many start reading the lessons...

Unfortunately, the man's wisdom seems to be veiled in his incoherent writing. Many are frustrated and ask for clarification... Some of the players who find the writing more pallatable start to internalize the main theories and test the ideas. However, after practicing the "simple" opening during many rounds of casual game play, these players continually get creamed before the middle game. They wonder if they are beaten due to their lack of understanding of the technique, or if this unconventional opening theory is in fact sound.

Up to this point, some of the practioners have taken the old man's background for granted. They never questioned his presumed wealth, his connections, and his education. But they got curious (as we all do), and started to ask for more details concerning the man's accomplishments. "What book did you write?" "What papers did you work on for the president?" "When did you travel to these exotic lands?" Because the old man never gives precise details to any of these questions, a red flag is raised...and a final question is asked: "Is he even one of the world's best chess players? Is this 'winning' opening sound?"

Tampa, Jack has been around for a long time, and many of us have backtested his theories. His idea of the 0-7 scoring system for accumulation and distribution cycles *do not* work as he claims. Jack has kindly provided a document giving details on how to mechanically score these cycles, and they are completely bogus...

Does this give you more details about the debacle?

 

[tampa]

Quote from pvTrader:

Suppose I'm learning to play chess, and I'm chatting with fellow players on a messageboard. I post a message asking for help on my technique. I wonder out loud, "How can I master this game?"

Suddenly, a man comes along, telling us that he is 70 years old. Then he tells us that he's one of the best chess players in the world. Not only that, he is well-travelled (citing his various exploits in exotic foreign lands), well connected (dropping hints that he has worked personally with a few US presidents), and an accomplished author (stating that he has written 30 books on various scientific subjects).

Naturally, one's ear perks up due to his illustrious life and accomplishments.

Next, he offers advice on chess strategies and tactics. He describes a "simple" chess opening that he guarantees will make you a world champion (like him) if you study and comprehend the intricacies. Thirsting for knowledge, many start reading the lessons...

Unfortunately, the man's wisdom seems to be veiled in his incoherent writing. Many are frustrated and ask for clarification... Some of the players who find the writing more pallatable start to internalize the main theories and test the ideas. However, after practicing the "simple" opening during many rounds of casual game play, these players continually get creamed before the middle game. They wonder if they are beaten due to their lack of understanding of the technique, or if this unconventional opening theory is in fact sound.

Up to this point, some of the practioners have taken the old man's background for granted. They never questioned his presumed wealth, his connections, and his education. But they got curious (as we all do), and started to ask for more details concerning the man's accomplishments. "What book did you write?" "What papers did you work on for the president?" "When did you travel to these exotic lands?" Because the old man never gives precise details to any of these questions, a red flag is raised...and a final question is asked: "Is he even one of the world's best chess players? Is this 'winning' opening sound?"

Tampa, Jack has been around for a long time, and many of us have backtested his theories. His idea of the 0-7 scoring system for accumulation and distribution cycles *do not* work as he claims. Jack has kindly provided a document giving details on how to mechanically score these cycles, and they are completely bogus...

Does this give you more details about the debacle?

Interesting points - just one question. How does one backtest a chess strategy?

 

[Biomech]

Quote from tampa:



Not one of his distracters have attempted in any way to disprove the validity of his methods, other than to say "I can't understand what he's saying.

Wrong. More than one person backtested his methods. None of them showed a profit. Not one.

I personally tried his technique using the Replay functionality for about a month period, and I wasn't impressed. With any kind of slippage it all, it wasn't profitable. I was using the very basic technique that he says will make anyone 30k per year.

Tampa, I am curious of your backtest results. You seem very confident in his system. You also, however, seem to change the rules on the fly. So I am quite confused. Have you done any backtesting at all on Jack's system? Did it show as profitable?

 

[Trane]

 

[tampa]

Quote from Biomech:



Wrong. More than one person backtested his methods. None of them showed a profit. Not one.

I personally tried his technique using the Replay functionality for about a month period, and I wasn't impressed. With any kind of slippage it all, it wasn't profitable. I was using the very basic technique that he says will make anyone 30k per year.

Tampa, I am curious of your backtest results. You seem very confident in his system. You also, however, seem to change the rules on the fly. So I am quite confused. Have you done any backtesting at all on Jack's system? Did it show as profitable?

Backtesting is for those who like to think that their computers can answer all of their questions. Basically people who can not take responsibility for their own trading decisions, and want hard fast rules. My experience has been that such individuals are more interested in playing computer gams, and less interested in learning how to trade.

I regret to inform you that I have not backtested the method, nor am I at all interested in your results.

However, I was under the impression that this thread was devoted to why Jack Hershey had not answered the demands of a rude individual to provide a list of his published books.

 

[wally_]

Quote from tampa:



Please excuse my French, but wally, you are a jerk.

Well, that's the type of response I expected from you. And you call me a jerk??? LOL...

 

[dbphoenix]

Quote from tampa:



Backtesting is for those who like to think that their computers can answer all of their questions. Basically people who can not take responsibility for their own trading decisions, and want hard fast rules. My experience has been that such individuals are more interested in playing computer gams, and less interested in learning how to trade.

I regret to inform you that I have not backtested the method, nor am I at all interested in your results.

However, I was under the impression that this thread was devoted to why Jack Hershey had not answered the demands of a rude individual to provide a list of his published books.

Seems like we may have a little denial creeping in here.

Are these methods profitable for you, Tampa? At least to the extent that Jack claims they should be?

--Db