Jack Hershey "WASH" technique

Quote from StreamlineTrade:

I don't care about my brokers wealth, only my own.

Although you may scoff at such a suggestion, it may enlighten you to look back at your detailed records that you keep, and see the difference in equity had you cut every trade as a scratch unless it zoomed off your way from the get-go.

I have, and I was quite surprised.

Did you ever hear of MAE? Reading up on that may enlighten you.
 
I realize that it is difficult to read and comprehend all the points a person may make. Even more so if you have a pre-conception about the poster. Let me re-iterate something just in case someone was listening.

IF you use a reference, you have a better chance of seeing a bad entry in time to get out with a scratch (break-even, wash, whatever you call it).

I mostly trade the Russell, so I use the ES as my reference. I have both charts up side by side. I monitor the ES as the Russell price moves to my expected entry site. Ideally I want to see the ES display what I call an "impulse" move through my entry point RIGHT BEFORE I pull the trigger.

If instead I see the ES oscillate or move adversely, I am likely to either pass on that entry or if I decide to roll the dice, I won't take much heat before I exit.

This technique works significantly better than any that I have heard you folks suggest, and it can be modified to work with equities.

Good luck
Steve
 
Quote from cnms2:

Wash trades work nicely when used as part of a momentum trading system. Entering on momentum allows you to get out with a wash or at a small cost when your entry was triggered by a fake signal.

In my experience, only market, stop market, contingent market orders work with momentum entries and exits.

entering on momentum -

so you want to say that a trade always has to go in your direction at least a few ticks right after your entry - and then if it retraces you can decide whether you go out with a small loss or b.even?

ok - fine. and how can you make sure that every one of your trade goes in the right direction FIRST?
 
Quote from StreamlineTrade:


... see the difference in equity had you cut every trade as a scratch unless it zoomed off your way from the get-go.
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looking back on the LOSING trades - yes of course i would be happier if i had a loss of 1 tick instead of 1 pt.

what you have to remember though are the winning trades - did not one of them ever go a little bit against you - before it probably turned a big winner?
 
Quote from Trader666:

Did you ever hear of MAE? Reading up on that may enlighten you.

Yes, indeed I have read around MAE. Although I am not Sweeney's biggest fan, he does have something to contribute.

In my humble opinion, such measures do have their uses, but to the thinking trader, reality is always king. The lazy trader who has a destiny with failure always loves to reduce thinks to scientific numbers. If only the complexities of modern markets (and inded human emotion thus reflected within) would allow this.

May I suggest you take more time in researching this Maximum Adverse Excursion concept more fully - especially in regards to your own equity curve. Doing some of your own thinking rather than relying on Guru Gospel may indeed enlighten you further too! Wouldn't that be fun! Please stop trying to be cute. I don't think it is to your best self-interest here.

Mike805 & EasyRider: Thanks very much for your constructive findings and thought. I have benefited from reading them.
 
Quote from StreamlineTrade:

Yes, indeed I have read around MAE. Although I am not Sweeney's biggest fan, he does have something to contribute.

In my humble opinion, such measures do have their uses, but to the thinking trader, reality is always king. The lazy trader who has a destiny with failure always loves to reduce thinks to scientific numbers. If only the complexities of modern markets (and inded human emotion thus reflected within) would allow this.

May I suggest you take more time in researching this Maximum Adverse Excursion concept more fully - especially in regards to your own equity curve. Doing some of your own thinking rather than relying on Guru Gospel may indeed enlighten you further too! Wouldn't that be fun! Please stop trying to be cute. I don't think it is to your best self-interest here.

Mike805 & EasyRider: Thanks very much for your constructive findings and thought. I have benefited from reading them.

Most traders who lacks the brainpower to "reduce thinks to scientific numbers" find comfort in dismissing objective, quantitative analysis for various reasons. But that only works on message boards. If you think MAE is "Guru Gospel," you're mistaken. It's not. It's just another metric, limited in use by the intellect of the user.
 
Quote from tradingbug:

This thread is for B people. For those who really want to discus things, there is one thread .......Jack Hershey Strategies. If you want to be a B type person, join in and try to help these fuck ups.

Its so sad that these moderators cant see through the glass and see clearly what is happening.

Specifically to GERRY, devil666, and the squawking chicken for making me waste my time reading your same pathetic shit 5 times in different threads. FUCK YOURSELVES THOROUGHLY. Stick with one thread for the B type people. pleeeeeeeease.

BUNCH OF SPAMMERS.

Wow, I can see why Jack Hershey is the perfect guru for you!
 
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