Jack Hershey Method Since 2008

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I may not post much for a while, but anyway it has been fun.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

Any chance of sharing today's reversals with those of us following along?

-river
 
Quote from jack hershey:

Yes I can explain any example you can think up and then I also can deal with each andeveryone of the remaining examples.

On any bar 77 that only has a trend history of P1's, when bar 78 occurs bar 78 is a P2. Use the combined definition of Pt2 and P2 and you have the answer to how, later a T2 occurs and all is certain and my quoted statements are in effect.

This was the case for the open this morning and, if you were annotaing and logging the anwser was there in your face. Hey if you were not, then it was just another day of not trading for you. Why? Because, rightfully, you have the emotioins of a CW trader.

Hi Jack,

the least I could ask you ist to stay respectful and polite!

I was referring to this:
Quote from jack hershey:

We are looking for the end of a short that began on bar 69.

In terms of the pattern, we are in a mode where everything about the short is defined. It is a little unusual in the sense that there is no T1 and the price BO of the RTL was not defined by T1. P2 occurred and the volatility was established. T2 set the "robustness" of the sentiment.

This is from the 25th. You say "...a short that began on bar 69...". Maybe looking at the wrong place. But on a chart for the 25th I don't see a short that began with that bar. Maybe you said "bar 69" but meant it on the chart for the 24th? Maybe you meant "long" instead of "short"?

I don't know. Therefore I tell you: "Something is wrong." In the past we had several times situations like this one. Either it was me simply "not getting it", (unconsciously) neglecting something very obvious, looking at the wrong places, etc. In that case you would highlight where I'm wrong or miss something.

The other case was that YOU made a mistake. Yes, even you make mistakes. But no big deal, you corrected them and things made sense again. Issue solved.

So while you mentioned a short that began with bar 69 on the 25th, in your last post you suddenly talk about bar 77 and 78!? This is too confusing because we don't know if it is me looking at the wrong places or it is one of your mistakes. In order to prevent this in the past and to make things clearer I posted charts where I highlighted those areas and you could give your comments. I even broke it down to intra bar movements just to be sure me or you are not missing something. Maybe it would be good if Tiki could post some of his charts as a reference for your narrations?

It were your words when you said that it is unusual "...that there is no T1 and the price BO of the RTL was not defined by T1...". You preach "3 price moves + 4 volume moves". But now you say yourself that here we saw a deviation to the rule. Correct? The correct rule should maybe be: "3 price move + USUALLY 4 VISIBLE volume moves" or something like "...even if it is not visible (on that fractal) it can be deducted by x, y, z" or any other variation of it.

But as I said without a chart or even charts that show the progress of a bar(s) over time it can be tricky both to understand and to explain.

Greetings.
 
Quote from river:

Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

Any chance of sharing today's reversals with those of us following along?

-river

For thursday the 26th: 5, 8, 20, 39, 59, 65, 76 and flat on 78 as usual.

Tomorrow I am going to be picked up really early and I am being taken to Madera Canyon. this is our monsoon here so I get to see some desert run off.

I could not come on until now since the lightening was hitting all over the place.

So there will be no more posts for a while.
 
Quote from frenchfry:

Hi Jack,

the least I could ask you ist to stay respectful and polite!

I was referring to this:


This is from the 25th. You say "...a short that began on bar 69...". Maybe looking at the wrong place. But on a chart for the 25th I don't see a short that began with that bar. Maybe you said "bar 69" but meant it on the chart for the 24th? Maybe you meant "long" instead of "short"?

I don't know. Therefore I tell you: "Something is wrong." In the past we had several times situations like this one. Either it was me simply "not getting it", (unconsciously) neglecting something very obvious, looking at the wrong places, etc. In that case you would highlight where I'm wrong or miss something.

The other case was that YOU made a mistake. Yes, even you make mistakes. But no big deal, you corrected them and things made sense again. Issue solved.

So while you mentioned a short that began with bar 69 on the 25th, in your last post you suddenly talk about bar 77 and 78!? This is too confusing because we don't know if it is me looking at the wrong places or it is one of your mistakes. In order to prevent this in the past and to make things clearer I posted charts where I highlighted those areas and you could give your comments. I even broke it down to intra bar movements just to be sure me or you are not missing something. Maybe it would be good if Tiki could post some of his charts as a reference for your narrations?

It were your words when you said that it is unusual "...that there is no T1 and the price BO of the RTL was not defined by T1...". You preach "3 price moves + 4 volume moves". But now you say yourself that here we saw a deviation to the rule. Correct? The correct rule should maybe be: "3 price move + USUALLY 4 VISIBLE volume moves" or something like "...even if it is not visible (on that fractal) it can be deducted by x, y, z" or any other variation of it.

But as I said without a chart or even charts that show the progress of a bar(s) over time it can be tricky both to understand and to explain.

Greetings.

I wasn't able to do anymore than to respond to what you wrote in the post I quoted (used) as the source for your questions.

My mistake. Sorry.

I do not do deviations. You must be very young and do not know anyone who is a person such as me. I am an intellectual and an important scientist.

I support learning by presenting a system of how the market works. PEP is the system. All the applications are derived from this parametrically based system composed of a Hypothesis Set and its Parametric Measures.

You are building for yourself a rule set to do what you do.

We are never on the same page. It is my custom to create and to do that I use established theories. The thinking process I use is called "deduction".

Day after day I post information. Lately and in chit chat, I am providing a train of trades that carry over precisely from day to day and over week to week. I am in the market ALL of the time and I am on the correct side of the market ALL of the time.

You asked a question. You required bar numbers, etc.. I responded. I gave you a rule to use to fill in on your ill chosen rule set.

RedDuke had a requirement of me. I failed to do Paltalk because I failed to get where he didn't tell me, my host or my host's technician where to go. Maybe someday RedDuke will post just what he wants me to do so I have time to get what he wants done.

I was requested to do this and that to help others achieve their goals. They do not believe my posts. They want to see my screens with account numbers on the screens. They want me to prove, on their terms, what they need to begin to learn.

at this point they have 53 conscutive interlocking hold and reversal trades done over a mere 6 days. Has anyone put up the data on an exel sheet on those bars. No. has anyone sued any stats to check out the extraction from the market? No except for me. i posted a one tick profit scenario for each trade. It only doubles 15 times in a year.

I worked with you previously and there was no return on my investment. That is how it goes. For some reason you think I should respect you. You do not work. You do not perform.

The very least you could be doing is posting your logs and your annotated charts.

So post them all from the 18th close to the present. This is chit chat; get off your ass and post ALL of your work.
 
Quote from jack hershey:

...They want to see my screens with account numbers on the screens.

NO they don't. Just the screens without the account numbers would suffice.
But you know that already.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

NO they don't. Just the screens without the account numbers would suffice.
But you know that already.

sure I do.

But I cannot trade without the information I need at my fingertips.

So you do NOT know that already. So you post your problems here just as any simplton would.

At least RedDuke got my position straight.

Right now I am looking forward to finding out from any one how I was supposted to get to the Paltalk site redDuke set up for my narration. Were you there with him?
 
Quote from jack hershey:

sure I do.

But I cannot trade without the information I need at my fingertips.
Yeah...so? You're dodging and not doing a very good job of it.
 
Quote from jack hershey:

For thursday the 26th: 5, 8, 20, 39, 59, 65, 76 and flat on 78 as usual.

TYVM. So tomorrow's open is "short"? I cannot figure out several of your trades for the past six days; some of the first few bars and the last few bars of a few of the days don't make sense to me in terms of trades taken and not taken. Perhaps there are special considerations for those bars?

I regret that this discussion of the past several days is concluding already-just when it seemed like progress was being made...perhaps when you return to posting the conversation could be continued.

Again, best wishes for Thursday and your recovery.

-river
 
Quote from river:

TYVM. So tomorrow's open is "short"? I cannot figure out several of your trades for the past six days; some of the first few bars and the last few bars of a few of the days don't make sense to me in terms of trades taken and not taken. Perhaps there are special considerations for those bars?

Lets look at your statement. The other "what if" is this: One size fits all and in this "fitting" at this level of sophistication I get certainty while giving up a few doublings per year. There are no compromises; it is just that the basic foundation is a 5 minute chart. I use it but I am looking at only orders of events (5 as stated early on).

That is why I suggested the way to look at the pieces is to begin with the briefest trades.


I regret that this discussion of the past several days is concluding already-just when it seemed like progress was being made...

My view was that once the requirement and the date was set, then I could present an indirent proof (A proof that a long string of linked trades had to be based on a kernal; the kernal being the P,V pattern) well before the date. So I did that. The proof is not understood. With any good computer, anyone could have gone through the data (here I mean all the stream of P and V) with confidence and gotten a parallel result (the unique pattern and how it interlocks all fractals).

For example look at that wealthy New York 19 year old at Harvard, now posting.. When I was an Adjct Prof at Penn in the late 60's and early 70's we had back to back 360's (for APL work primarily). The RDBMS and SQL came out of those machines. Today a college student can "deduce" how the markets work using college resources in a new york minute.

RedDuke wanted to decide on NOT using SCT. He got there.

Now there is six days of data and 54 trades or so. My notes total 76 pages of those days. All T/F and annotated snagits for each trade.


Again, best wishes for Thursday and your recovery.

-river

There is a lot of info embedded in this post.
 
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