Jack Hershey Method: Beginner Rockets

[nzbryant]

Quote from nononsense:

Hey Jack,

Please quit filling up ET space with worthless vapor.
SIMPLY START TRADING.
Don't chicken out now! You got your chance to celebrity till eternity.
We never saw ANYTHING from you, except for that allegedly fudged IB Demo sheet of some years ago. Be a man and stand up to back up your story.

PLease respect Jack - he adds more value than 99% here

 

[Chicken Little]

Here is how you get rich in Candyland.

Annotate your charts and put in the channels ASAP.
Draw a new channel at the failure to trend.
For example, if in an uptrend and the next bar fails to make a new high,
draw your channel extending the previous bar high with the current/closing bar high.
Don't forget to annotate where you would have taken the profit and reversed at the high 5 minutes ago. Voila ! Its that easy. Just get out 5 minutes ago at the high. This is how to get rich in Candyland amassing a fortune in expostfactodollars. The latest quote shows they are trading google to the dollar.

 

[nononsense]

Quote from nzbryant:

PLease respect Jack - he adds more value than 99% here

ya sound like a true believer. I'll stick with that remaining 1%.
Jack, get going with trading so that your nzbryant client doesn't make a fool of himself.

PS: I love that juicy 99 against 1 ratio. Imagine, 99 guys paying for my profits.

Jack, prove me wrong. Get of your butt and start doing something.

 

[Chicken Little]

Quote from Grob109:

Would that place be somewhere other than ET?

the last time this happened a guy picked an IB of his choosing and we sent stuff directly from the broker who did the trades. what was the result? the third party broker offered a 10% dicount to anyone using the method that was illustrated.

Did you miss that, somehow? Probably not.

My current plans call for making videos of my trading. There will be several others in the cardboard box with me before and aftertrading. As a group we will be going over to the library to get in line to use a machine hooked to a telephone line probably.

With respect to this:

"What part of "where THE RESULTS CAN'T BE FUDGED" don't you understand?"

I do not understand why you typed it.

I do not understand why it came to mind for you.

I do not understand why it is in the space.

All of this is not where I operate or live my life. It is a foreign place where people may be operating but it is not where I operate.

This is Nitro land or some trivial place that is where you like to be or something. That is your choice.

As far as I am concerned what you post in ET is your post and it is backed by you. Is there any reason why you would post anything that is not representative of what you are doing?

There is one small matter with my trading style that you do not comprehend. It is how I get filled. Maybe someone can clue you into how people like me trade.

For example, the SEC took exception for a few years to some of my trading. They finally got it straight. They had a view that I was breaking the laws. They acted upon this assumption. Now they have been straighten out and they do not make the same mistakes anymore.

I am beginning to think that you may be thinking that I am doing something that is not honest or something. Not kosher would be a humorous way to put it.

You may want to rethink your orientation and viewpoint. You may be fucking up again.

Well Jack allow me to explain that to you. You being a resident of Candyland, which we as residents of "reality" call candyasses, probably dont understand the motivations and actions of anyone not a candyass. Now the broker offering anyone using the method you showed was undoubtedly a B team member. Unlike candyasses, B team members are predatory meat eaters. While candyasses like you are sitting under the truffula trees eating granola, there are numerous B team predators looking for raw meat. Their favorite food is gullible candyass. When you showed your trading method which generates 20 to 40 trades a day, the broker immediately started salivating, HE SAW SOME FRESH GULLIBLE CANDYASS!!

 

[Grob109]

Quote from Chicken Little:

Here is how you get rich in Candyland.

Annotate your charts and put in the channels ASAP.
Draw a new channel at the failure to trend.
For example, if in an uptrend and the next bar fails to make a new high,
draw your channel extending the previous bar high with the current/closing bar high.
Don't forget to annotate where you would have taken the profit and reversed at the high 5 minutes ago. Voila ! Its that easy. Just get out 5 minutes ago at the high. This is how to get rich in Candyland amassing a fortune in expostfactodollars. The latest quote shows they are trading google to the dollar.

You blue elipse is there for a reason. What is it?

points 1, 2, and 3 of any channel can be set up with two bars (consecutive) or three bars at most. See prior reference before page 100.

FTT means Failure To Traverse.

You do have to learn the terminology. FTT is a difficult concept for people in your shoes. Once you get to see how a market works on a screen it get to be easier and easier to understand markets.

In a trading channel (chosen by the trader) the projection goes into the future.

As the future moves into the present, the price bars form and occupy the channel.

At some point the channel, as it moves into the future, comes to an end as dictated by price no longer being able to continue to fill the channel in the direction of the channel trend.

I call this incomplete dominant (this means in the direction of the channel trend) traverse a FAILURE. Failure is an important concept in trading to make money. It is an end effect. End effects are very important because they are where profits are taken.

This is a lot , to consider, to digest and to finally understand.

I do not really expect you to. But the fact is that you are trampling on the way markets work and you have some deep misunderstandings and your mental processes are diverting you away from learning any further for some reasons that are unimportant to this group to have to go through reading about.

One characteristic that you exhibit is that you start threads that a lot of people want to see. Some want to see the games people play and participate in to target me for an assortment of purposes. One of those purposes is yours.

Other people just observe and read. What they get is how I handle the difficulties of people who have an assortment of problems. you chose to exhibit the absence of "working" and the characteristic of superficiality with respect to market knowledge.

It took you days to draw a channel and now you have moved along to blue elipses circling point 2.

I drew in a few yellow arrows that you would not understand to inform you.

you do not see trends until they are over. And you do not easily determine when a trend is over.

Ordinarily you sit through holding positions where they are in drawdown more than they will ever make as profits (according to how you exit). I just accept what you annotate as fact because you did it. Onlyy one person affected you in rockets. A person who posted a 200,000 profit on 5,000 dollars over 2 years. We know why. 666 can't accept what you did. We know why. Being knowledgeable about you guys is not difficult. It is done by studying how people behave and what triggers them in their behavior. I conduct this type of thing as a side bar to the main event which is finding out what will trigger any progress in anyone's learning. Google my theory of learning papers if you wish.

I try to keep all my cards on the table and face up.

What if you learned how to project channels?

What if you learned how to see and understand a channel coming to an end?

The overall answer is that you and easy could compare notes. You would be making the same kind of money he is. You might get to make as much as 666 inplies and infers he makes (he may just be trying to learn a method by continuing daily examples after the fact (where the facts are verified by a third party)). Nononsense's selective memory on prints may also be an inner urge of his to see "where's the beef". Every one knows the beta is up and the archives are being assembled for those who will be making the required commitments.

"where's the beef" on what you are lookiing at and do not understand is found in your account. there is some money there from your using this stuff so far. Unfortunately you are going about it your way and not easy's way of getting the transference.

The concept of drawing channels ASAP you have written out with words. Many other threads on many other methods of trading have one common component. WORK. You can stand right next to work being done and you immune system protects you from catching it.

If I give charts to fifth graders and they have their instruments (straight edge and pencil and three erasers, each) I cannot prevent them from all coming up with the same answer.

They go at it so quickly that you can smell the burning rubber right away just like at the end of a Polish wedding. It is group effort and there is no concept of doing work individually and competing. I do it as a democracy where everyone votes with their minds and erased all over charts.

Why aren't they afraid of using erasers?

Maybe your breakthrough would be to get a carton of them at Costco.

what would happen if you posted a screwed up chart with the wrong channels on it?

Well it happened and you got the answer sheet back form the fifth graders since, in effect, I just connected the dots as they would have.

easy worked. Now he is working more and more effectively every day.

If any person posts an equity curve, how do you know he is still learning?

The curve is not straight on an arithmetic or an exponential chart.

The curve has the portential to steepen by eight doublings of the slope.

How do you always know that a FTT is NOT coming up? That is your WOW for the day.

I have a seminar coming up and I have to get stuff together to make 4 more camtasias for the archives.

 

[nononsense]

Quote from Grob109:

You blue elipse is there for a reason. What is it?

points 1, 2, and 3 of any channel can be set up with two bars (consecutive) or three bars at most. See prior reference before page 100.

FTT means Failure To Traverse.

You do have to learn the terminology. FTT is a difficult concept for people in your shoes. Once you get to see how a market works on a screen it get to be easier and easier to understand markets.

In a trading channel (chosen by the trader) the projection goes into the future.

As the future moves into the present, the price bars form and occupy the channel.

At some point the channel, as it moves into the future, comes to an end as dictated by price no longer being able to continue to fill the channel in the direction of the channel trend.

I call this incomplete dominant (this means in the direction of the channel trend) traverse a FAILURE. Failure is an important concept in trading to make money. It is an end effect. End effects are very important because they are where profits are taken.

This is a lot , to consider, to digest and to finally understand.

I do not really expect you to. But the fact is that you are trampling on the way markets work and you have some deep misunderstandings and your mental processes are diverting you away from learning any further for some reasons that are unimportant to this group to have to go through reading about.

One characteristic that you exhibit is that you start threads that a lot of people want to see. Some want to see the games people play and participate in to target me for an assortment of purposes. One of those purposes is yours.

Other people just observe and read. What they get is how I handle the difficulties of people who have an assortment of problems. you chose to exhibit the absence of "working" and the characteristic of superficiality with respect to market knowledge.

It took you days to draw a channel and now you have moved along to blue elipses circling point 2.

I drew in a few yellow arrows that you would not understand to inform you.

you do not see trends until they are over. And you do not easily determine when a trend is over.

Ordinarily you sit through holding positions where they are in drawdown more than they will ever make as profits (according to how you exit). I just accept what you annotate as fact because you did it. Onlyy one person affected you in rockets. A person who posted a 200,000 profit on 5,000 dollars over 2 years. We know why. 666 can't accept what you did. We know why. Being knowledgeable about you guys is not difficult. It is done by studying how people behave and what triggers them in their behavior. I conduct this type of thing as a side bar to the main event which is finding out what will trigger any progress in anyone's learning. Google my theory of learning papers if you wish.

I try to keep all my cards on the table and face up.

What if you learned how to project channels?

What if you learned how to see and understand a channel coming to an end?

The overall answer is that you and easy could compare notes. You would be making the same kind of money he is. You might get to make as much as 666 inplies and infers he makes (he may just be trying to learn a method by continuing daily examples after the fact (where the facts are verified by a third party)). Nononsense's selective memory on prints may also be an inner urge of his to see "where's the beef". Every one knows the beta is up and the archives are being assembled for those who will be making the required commitments.

"where's the beef" on what you are lookiing at and do not understand is found in your account. there is some money there from your using this stuff so far. Unfortunately you are going about it your way and not easy's way of getting the transference.

The concept of drawing channels ASAP you have written out with words. Many other threads on many other methods of trading have one common component. WORK. You can stand right next to work being done and you immune system protects you from catching it.

If I give charts to fifth graders and they have their instruments (straight edge and pencil and three erasers, each) I cannot prevent them from all coming up with the same answer.

They go at it so quickly that you can smell the burning rubber right away just like at the end of a Polish wedding. It is group effort and there is no concept of doing work individually and competing. I do it as a democracy where everyone votes with their minds and erased all over charts.

Why aren't they afraid of using erasers?

Maybe your breakthrough would be to get a carton of them at Costco.

what would happen if you posted a screwed up chart with the wrong channels on it?

Well it happened and you got the answer sheet back form the fifth graders since, in effect, I just connected the dots as they would have.

easy worked. Now he is working more and more effectively every day.

If any person posts an equity curve, how do you know he is still learning?

The curve is not straight on an arithmetic or an exponential chart.

The curve has the portential to steepen by eight doublings of the slope.

How do you always know that a FTT is NOT coming up? That is your WOW for the day.

I have a seminar coming up and I have to get stuff together to make 4 more camtasias for the archives.

Get of your butt and start trading something.

 

[murray t turtle]

Quote from chart- cnms2:

==============
Nice cool chart work, those look like profit[prophet] charts;
like moving averages under/over price as oposed to macd.

''Show me you are no fool;
walk across my swimming pool !!!!!!! ''

OK, I am a believer;
just wait til the temperature downTrends to where a polar bear could cool walk, like on ice,walk across your pool, cool .

I am no foolCOOL

 

[Trader666]

Quote from Grob109:

You blue elipse is there for a reason. What is it?

points 1, 2, and 3 of any channel can be set up with two bars (consecutive) or three bars at most. See prior reference before page 100.

FTT means Failure To Traverse.

You do have to learn the terminology. FTT is a difficult concept for people in your shoes. Once you get to see how a market works on a screen it get to be easier and easier to understand markets.

In a trading channel (chosen by the trader) the projection goes into the future.

As the future moves into the present, the price bars form and occupy the channel.

At some point the channel, as it moves into the future, comes to an end as dictated by price no longer being able to continue to fill the channel in the direction of the channel trend.

I call this incomplete dominant (this means in the direction of the channel trend) traverse a FAILURE. Failure is an important concept in trading to make money. It is an end effect. End effects are very important because they are where profits are taken.

This is a lot , to consider, to digest and to finally understand.

I do not really expect you to. But the fact is that you are trampling on the way markets work and you have some deep misunderstandings and your mental processes are diverting you away from learning any further for some reasons that are unimportant to this group to have to go through reading about.

One characteristic that you exhibit is that you start threads that a lot of people want to see. Some want to see the games people play and participate in to target me for an assortment of purposes. One of those purposes is yours.

Other people just observe and read. What they get is how I handle the difficulties of people who have an assortment of problems. you chose to exhibit the absence of "working" and the characteristic of superficiality with respect to market knowledge.

It took you days to draw a channel and now you have moved along to blue elipses circling point 2.

I drew in a few yellow arrows that you would not understand to inform you.

you do not see trends until they are over. And you do not easily determine when a trend is over.

Ordinarily you sit through holding positions where they are in drawdown more than they will ever make as profits (according to how you exit). I just accept what you annotate as fact because you did it. Onlyy one person affected you in rockets. A person who posted a 200,000 profit on 5,000 dollars over 2 years. We know why. 666 can't accept what you did. We know why. Being knowledgeable about you guys is not difficult. It is done by studying how people behave and what triggers them in their behavior. I conduct this type of thing as a side bar to the main event which is finding out what will trigger any progress in anyone's learning. Google my theory of learning papers if you wish.

I try to keep all my cards on the table and face up.

What if you learned how to project channels?

What if you learned how to see and understand a channel coming to an end?

The overall answer is that you and easy could compare notes. You would be making the same kind of money he is. You might get to make as much as 666 inplies and infers he makes (he may just be trying to learn a method by continuing daily examples after the fact (where the facts are verified by a third party)). Nononsense's selective memory on prints may also be an inner urge of his to see "where's the beef". Every one knows the beta is up and the archives are being assembled for those who will be making the required commitments.

"where's the beef" on what you are lookiing at and do not understand is found in your account. there is some money there from your using this stuff so far. Unfortunately you are going about it your way and not easy's way of getting the transference.

The concept of drawing channels ASAP you have written out with words. Many other threads on many other methods of trading have one common component. WORK. You can stand right next to work being done and you immune system protects you from catching it.

If I give charts to fifth graders and they have their instruments (straight edge and pencil and three erasers, each) I cannot prevent them from all coming up with the same answer.

They go at it so quickly that you can smell the burning rubber right away just like at the end of a Polish wedding. It is group effort and there is no concept of doing work individually and competing. I do it as a democracy where everyone votes with their minds and erased all over charts.

Why aren't they afraid of using erasers?

Maybe your breakthrough would be to get a carton of them at Costco.

what would happen if you posted a screwed up chart with the wrong channels on it?

Well it happened and you got the answer sheet back form the fifth graders since, in effect, I just connected the dots as they would have.

easy worked. Now he is working more and more effectively every day.

If any person posts an equity curve, how do you know he is still learning?

The curve is not straight on an arithmetic or an exponential chart.

The curve has the portential to steepen by eight doublings of the slope.

How do you always know that a FTT is NOT coming up? That is your WOW for the day.

I have a seminar coming up and I have to get stuff together to make 4 more camtasias for the archives.

Do you have to reply to every post with a tome of diarrhetic BS? I don't make unsubstantiated, outrageous claims of trading perfection... you and your followers do. Thus my challenge. So are you going accept it or not? Or are you afraid to show everyone what you're really made of?

 

[Babak]

Quote from easyrider:

I dont know why it is I have such a difficult time getting this straight in my head. I think I have some mental blocks that prevent me from understanding certain things.. It took me quite awhile to get prorata volume straight and it is one of those duh concepts that you should get in about five minutes. Can somebody, once again, go over this 2 pair phenomena at the turns. I have read everything so far I think and I have the 2 pair illustration tatooed on my eyelides but I still cant see it when it is happening.

It is fascinating how when people don't understand Jack, it is they who are at fault. Not Jack for writting drivel.

 

[Grob109]

Quote from Trader666:

Do you have to reply to every post with a tome of diarrhetic BS? I don't make unsubstantiated, outrageous claims of trading perfection... you and your followers do. Thus my challenge. So are you going accept it or not? Or are you afraid to show everyone what you're really made of?

It has been accepted de facto and you can just do the linking to anything of ours that is acceptable to you when you get around to it. Don't include anything that is something that you can't handle; include only what you can handle.

I continually present myself to those who have any interest. Usually about 4 out of 5 have no interest and that means that they reject my viewpoint, practically speaking.

This below is simply your opinion:

"Do you have to reply to every post with a tome of diarrhetic BS? I don't make unsubstantiated, outrageous claims of trading perfection... you and your followers do."

I do not share it; nor do I expect anyone to be responsive in any way to what I suggest as support for improving making money.

You and I do not discuss making money and I am not negotiating with you. I just explained how you could do what you want with information readily available and linkable. I also explained that there is a lot of information otherwise available.

I haven't seen any of your trading results. When you post them, I will simply accept what you post as appropriate. Personally, I do not think it will be possible to make a comparison but you are must welcome to do it using our team's data that is continually available. I am not going to be making any comparisons that is your exclusive interest.

I hope I have kept this to your liking in terms of brevity.