J.Podhoretz: Republicans did not just lose, they were slaughtered

[dddooo]

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You really need to stick to the big issues like getting someone else to pay for your healthcare just like you want someone else to do your charity.
My employer pays for my healthcare. The problem is the system is not working, my employer like any other employer in this country is grossly overcharged, the quality of service is low and I would much prefer my employer to pay less for better quality service and pass the savings on to me. Yes, it is possible, it is practiced in most developed, civilized countries.

Forget Iran nuclear buildup, Russia selling them missiles and technology, and Islamo fascism.
This is a direct result of six years of republican government, the war in Iraq and other failures of Bush's foreign policy. Funny you had to bring these issues up.

Liberman is not our best hope but he does hold the dim majority. What makes you think if he switched he wouldn't get the chairmanship of whatever committee he wanted or maybe a Cabinet post leaving the rep gov to name his replacement.
He does not have seniority in the republican party to get a chairmanship. As far as a Cabinet post is concerned he can get it without switching parties but he'd be an idiot to accept a position in the Cabinet of a lame duck president that will only last two more years. Lieberman is a scumbag, he is no idiot.

I don't think these will happen but MANDATE?
The mandate is based on the outcome of the last elections, not on the total balance of power. When six contested senatorial races all go democratic - it's a landslide and it's a mandate.

 

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Quote from dddooo:

You really need to stick to the big issues like getting someone else to pay for your healthcare just like you want someone else to do your charity.
My employer pays for my healthcare. The problem is the system is not working, my employer like any other employer in this country is grossly overcharged, the quality of service is low and I would much prefer my employer to pay less for better quality service and pass the savings on to me. Yes, it is possible, it is practiced in most developed, civilized countries.

Forget Iran nuclear buildup, Russia selling them missiles and technology, and Islamo fascism.
This is a direct result of six years of republican government, the war in Iraq and other failures of Bush's foreign policy. Funny you had to bring these issues up.

Lieberman is not our best hope but he does hold the dim majority. What makes you think if he switched he wouldn't get the chairmanship of whatever committee he wanted or maybe a Cabinet post leaving the rep gov to name his replacement.
He does not have seniority in the republican party to get a chairmanship. As far as a Cabinet post is concerned he can get it without switching parties but he'd be an idiot to accept a position in the Cabinet of a lame duck president that will only last two more years. Lieberman is a scumbag, he is no idiot.

I don't think these will happen but MANDATE?
The mandate is based on the outcome of the last elections, not on the total balance of power. When six contested senatorial races all go democratic - it's a landslide and it's a mandate.

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I knew you didn't pay for your own healthcare what a surprise and what about charity. Obviously you are no entrepreneur.
Always looking to someone else to care for you which is so lib and dim.

I personally hope the dims do forge ahead with their "mandate". They always overreach and expose themselves.

If you get your healthcare and the Islamo fascists get their way your healthcare benefits may only be good for 2 or 3 years. Some people say we have 15 years others 5 so good luck you are going to need it.

By the way I paid 100% of my healthcare costs while living in the US and very little while living in one of those progressive countries. There is no comparison between the quality of care here and there. I wouldn't be alive today if I had stayed under that system. We have employees in several of those countries and if they have a serious problem we fly them home to the US immediately for treatment or assessment, which we pay for. Even if they are treated in those countries we have doctors monitor everything that is done for them to be sure they have the US standard of care. Elective treatments are all done here and paid for here. With the new technology we can monitor a person in the remotest of places almost real-time and some of them are unbelievably remote..

 

[dddooo]

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By the way I paid 100% of my healthcare costs while living in the US and very little while living in one of those progressive countries. There is no comparison between the quality of care here and there. I wouldn't be alive today if I had stayed under that system. We have employees in several of those countries and if they have a serious problem we fly them home to the US immediately for treatment or assessment, which we pay for.

I bet that progressive country you're talking about is not Canada, the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Israel, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Belgium, the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark......You would not need to fly people home from those countries for treatment, they can just as well be treated there for half the price and likely with better quality/results.


BTW This is a real disgrace:
"Escorts Heart Institute and Research Center in Delhi and Faridabad, India performs nearly 15,000 heart operations every year, and the post-surgery mortality rate is only 0.8 percent, which is less than half of most major hospitals in the United States."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_tourism

 

[Doubter]

Quote from dddooo:

I bet that progressive country you're talking about is not Canada, the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Israel, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Belgium, the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark......You would not need to fly people home from those countries for treatment, they can just as well be treated there for half the price and likely with better quality/results.


BTW This is a real disgrace:
"Escorts Heart Institute and Research Center in Delhi and Faridabad, India performs nearly 15,000 heart operations every year, and the post-surgery mortality rate is only 0.8 percent, which is less than half of most major hospitals in the United States."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_tourism

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Ironically it was one of those countries. The serious problem is quality/results. Many of our most modern procedures and treatments aren't even offered there because the bureaucrats decide what they will pay for. Even here medicare-caid sure don't pay for the most advanced procedures. In Canada the waiting period for joint replacement surgery is a minimum of 2 years. Nearly 60 % of their doctors want out of the system and it has gotten so bad they have now started private hospitals for direct or insurance payment and those hospitals are overcrowded. One community where I lived several years ago had a wonderful hospital but it was loaded with Canadian patients wanting elective surgery not provided in Canada. Mostly hysterectomys.

Actually, to me healthcare is so miniscule compared to the real problems we face but that is what the dims want to focus on while we slide faster toward Armageddon.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from Doubter:

Ironically it was one of those countries. The serious problem is quality/results. Many of our most modern procedures and treatments aren't even offered there because the bureaucrats decide what they will pay for.

Nonsense, the fact that you avoid naming the country is telling, all those countries have modern equipment, qualified doctors and that their quality and results are extremely high is well researched and documented. I've never heard of people being flown from those countries for treatment (certainly there may always be some exceptional circumstances but as a rule american employees in the UK or Australia get their treatment in the UK or Australia).

Of course none of those counties is perfect, Canada is a good example, they do have a problem with waiting lists for elective surgeries and some other non-life threatening procedures. Most countries don't have those problems though, they don't have 20% of their population without insurance, they pay half of what we pay both per capita and as a percentage of GDP, they live longer, they are healthier and more satisfied with their healthcare system than we are. And if you think their government bureaucrats are worse than our home-grown HMO bureaucrats who get paid based on how many claims they deny - I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Pa(b)st Prime]

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Actually, to me healthcare is so miniscule compared to the real problems we face but that is what the dims want to focus on while we slide faster toward Armageddon.

You're a bright guy, btw.

American healthcare is certainly not a crisis. There's obvious low cost private remedies. Unfortunately for the class conscious/warfare Left, none of these plans involve the indigent being treated at Cedars-Sinai. Is there ANY venue, including the justice system, where means is not rewarded by superior quality of goods and services? That's life.

The Left has built a canard this past election by betraying themselves as the "peace" party. In reality the Democrat's and their hard core base of supporters are far more concerned about advancing their agenda of expensive social programs along with higher taxes than about the risk of pressuring the administration on Iraq. Does anyone think ordinary thinkers like Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid want responsibility for calling the shots on strategy, troop deployment, withdrawal schedules or the monitoring of Iraq's internal peace keeping forces? It's a hell of a lot easier to throw stones at Global Warming that put your ass on the line with national security.

That brings me to this. The United States is at it's greatest security risk since 9/11. Al-Queda and it's operatives have correctly identified the American electorate's mindset. A domestic terror attack could easily have led to a GOP victory this month and in doodoo's favorite word, a mandate for leveling the Middle East. Instead the terrorists are half way home with the emasculation of the Bush friendly GOP majority. Now what? Well for the reasons I discussed earlier, the U.S. withdrawal out of the region will be slow. The "peace party" (those same folks who brought us Wilson, FDR, Truman and LBJ) don't want to be known as the chicken or yellow party, so they'll saber rattle a bit. But the terrorist now know, there's a soft underbelly in the American electorate that could very quickly turn isolationist if we're hit again. Instead of American retaliation we could experience American capitulation. Goodbye Israel. Hello nuclear Iran. And just wait till assassination attempt #13 takes out Musharraf..........

 

[bsmeter2]

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

You're a bright guy, btw.

That brings me to this. The United States is at it's greatest security risk since 9/11. Al-Queda and it's operatives have correctly identified the American electorate's mindset. A domestic terror attack could easily have led to a GOP victory this month and in doodoo's favorite word, a mandate for leveling the Middle East. Instead the terrorists are half way home with the emasculation of the Bush friendly GOP majority. Now what? Well for the reasons I discussed earlier, the U.S. withdrawal out of the region will be slow. The "peace party" (those same folks who brought us Wilson, FDR, Truman and LBJ) don't want to be known as the chicken or yellow party, so they'll saber rattle a bit. But the terrorist now know, there's a soft underbelly in the American electorate that could very quickly turn isolationist if we're hit again. Instead of American retaliation we could experience American capitulation. Goodbye Israel. Hello nuclear Iran. And just wait till assassination attempt #13 takes out Musharraf..........

LOL! Psychopath alert.

First he calls a fool "bright guy", then he starts rehashing Dick Cheneys talking points. This guy probably prays there is another 911 type event so he can be proven correct. I'm sure the CIA will not dissapoint him.

http://edwardjayepstein.com/911book.htm

 

[hapaboy]

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LOL! Psychopath alert.

First he calls a fool "bright guy", then he starts rehashing Dick Cheneys talking points. This guy probably prays there is another 911 type event so he can be proven correct. I'm sure the CIA will not dissapoint him.

Moonbat alert.

 

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Quote from hapaboy:

Moonbat alert.

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He's just frustrated cause the big people won't let him shave yet.

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from FightTheFuture:

... it does appear that liberals are becoming less common. One day, the only place that you will see a liberal is in a museum.

Aahahahahaha! There's that rightwingnut wet dream that never fails to amuse.

Newsflash: Not one Democratic incumbent lost his or her seat.

Not One.

Suuurre, liberals are disappearing; keep telling yourself that.

Look out, FTF, there's a liberal under your bed RIGHT NOW!! Run for your life!