I've concluded its impossible to day trade index futures manually

[BSAM]

Quote from tradenstuff:

and would this mentor provide official statements going back some number of years to provide concrete evidence of profitability with said system?

When you first begin to talk, and before you hand over the money, in fact before you even make the effort for a face to face meeting, you would both have to agree that you will need to be shown statements going back for a certain period of time.
Then, if you were serious, you could move the deal forward from that point.
Set up the meeting, etc.

 

[tradenstuff]

Quote from BSAM:

When you first begin to talk, and before you hand over the money, in fact before you even make the effort for a face to face meeting, you would both have to agree that you will need to be shown statements going back for a certain period of time.
Then, if you were serious, you could move the deal forward from that point.
Set up the meeting, etc.

well, if official statements where made available before any money exchange, i think thats fair.

 

[BSAM]

I'm sure if someone wanted to enter a deal with you that there would be many details that only an attorney could help both of you with.

Like, for example, would you be willing to put up say 5 to 10 thousand dollars for 5 to 10 years to ensure that you would not divulge the system to anyone?

Could it even be proven that you did divulge the system?
Maybe not, but what if you got caught?
Would you be willing to lose the additional money?
Details, details, details...

 

[achilles28]

Quote from tradenstuff:

the problem with "price action" trading is that you cant clearly define a setup. why? because there are no 2 setups that are alike. never ever ever will be. in order for there to be every trader in the world would have to trade the same exact way all in unison to make the same exact setup.

you can never clearly define a good trade from a bad trade because they all look very similar.

again you CANNOT clearly define a set of criteria to enter and exit a "price action' trade because no 2 days are exactly alike.

and that, is why you fail. good look, champ!

 

[achilles28]

Quote from tradenstuff:

ok, fine, who has a 20k system for sale? im interested, pm me a prospectus.

I think "Ripley" has a fund, and in the process of raising capital now....

 

[Fractals 'R Us]

Quote from tradenstuff:

i believe there are edges but they are razor thin and tiny. they can only be exploited by rigorous mathematical methods coupled with thorough coding and precise execution that is fully automated.

simply looking at charts and clicking the mouse is suicide imo. Every tick is new information that effects the edge and changes that probability. This HAS to processed by computer automation. the human brain simply can not deal with what is happening on the fly.

Honestly, you should keep on trying, we need the money

 

[jtrader33]

Quote from jack hershey:

I make 40K an hour.

...then you find out how deranged you are.

HA!

 

[tradenstuff]

Quote from Fractals 'R Us:

Honestly, you should keep on trying, we need the money

LOL, yes, its the 1 lot retail traders that provide all the money.

I swear, keep talking one by one, you are all exposed as complete loser frauds.

ahhh the interent.. gotta love it.

 

[BlueTurtle]

Look, I sell educational materials, and have an interest promoting many books on trading.

so this is what I have my salespeople tell all the "losers"

You are not a "loser," you just look at the wrong information. we are here to show you the way PRO's trade the market. the secret to success. we will answer your emails (as long as you keep paying us), and wouldn't it be great to just make 1 ES point a day!!!!! that is soo easy!!!!

now please give us $2,000 for such great advice.

and then tomorrow, when the market is live and not hindsight crap, we will say the markets are very difficult and bear with us...

but keep paying, you are a trusted member!!!!!

and buy our books, because we win that way while you lose.

 

[SeventhCereal]

no retard. show your profit. but i guess you don't have any LOL. i'm hitting your weak spot I know it and its quite fun. You can talk all day, but when it comes time to show the result you got nothing.

Quote from BlueTurtle:

I will make about 4 mil.....this week.

oh, want to see the money? fine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:YeGon_millions.jpg

I am also considering buying a few planets, yachts, and a castle with a moat. want to see pictures???

writing on trading makes no sense to me.

but this kind of comedy is good. I laugh, and that's all that matters.