I've concluded its impossible to day trade index futures manually

Quote from jack hershey:

Yes. Would you like me to buy you a ticket to Tucson?

Bring some thumb drives.

When you come I'll set up a tour for you. (Google Nodoji)
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arent u the guy that makes 3x the range every day?

if thats true, y not just wire me 100 grand?

you can make it back in half a day.
 
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id bet any anything, you name it, that you cannot manually day trade index futures AND you do not know anyone that can.

bet me anything, we'll take the bet to a lawyer and make it legit.

put up or shut up.
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What have you got to bet with after failing at futures?
 
Quote from jack hershey:

Yes. Would you like me to buy you a ticket to Tucson?

Bring some thumb drives.

When you come I'll set up a tour for you. (Google Nodoji)
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Better yet, google his house in Tucson.
 
This self-proclaimed failure and loser will spend the next 3,467 hours trolling instead of trading/learning how to trade...

then one day this overweight clown will wake up and decide to be an online guru...

horrible blog, really bad youtube videos, really awful simulated trades...

then, after getting his mom and sister as paid clients.....funds an account for $2,000.

1 week later: $800

then back to the message boards!!!!!!

odds of being married.......zero. gf.....zero. athletic.....zero.

now get out there and be the online guru!!!!
 
Quote from BlueTurtle:

This self-proclaimed failure and loser will spend the next 3,467 hours trolling instead of trading/learning how to trade...

then one day this overweight clown will wake up and decide to be an online guru...

horrible blog, really bad youtube videos, really awful simulated trades...

then, after getting his mom and sister as paid clients.....funds an account for $2,000.

1 week later: $800

then back to the message boards!!!!!!

odds of being married.......zero. gf.....zero. athletic.....zero.

now get out there and be the online guru!!!!
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LOL

:D
 
Quote from tradenstuff:

i believe there are edges but they are razor thin and tiny. they can only be exploited by rigorous mathematical methods coupled with thorough coding and precise execution that is fully automated.

simply looking at charts and clicking the mouse is suicide imo. Every tick is new information that effects the edge and changes that probability. This HAS to processed by computer automation. the human brain simply can not deal with what is happening on the fly.
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I disagree, it can be done for a short period of time, see the combine from topstep for proof, but its the dumb way and only a few have the ability.

This is the right way:-- i dont use this, but its as close to my ideas that is available for short term trading to retail

Here's a start, happy to see you making progress-- stay away from CHARTS and TA of past prices!

jigsawtrading.com
 
Quote from tradenstuff:

i believe there are edges but they are razor thin and tiny. they can only be exploited by rigorous mathematical methods coupled with thorough coding and precise execution that is fully automated.

simply looking at charts and clicking the mouse is suicide imo. Every tick is new information that effects the edge and changes that probability. This HAS to processed by computer automation. the human brain simply can not deal with what is happening on the fly.
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keep it simple stupid.

mathematical methods.. really?

lol
 
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