I've concluded its impossible to day trade index futures manually

Quote from Jack_Larkin:
How in the heck can you post something like this, showing you at least understand the idea behind known-unknowns, but toss out a logic fallacy in your tread title reading "impossible to day trade ... manually"?

Are you just trying to extract a response, explaining how, through your inference and someone correcting you?

And there's nothing "insider" about the ones at my firm that trade ES. They do it manually and worked hard on their own, independently created, strategies.
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This thread had potential, til Hershey gave the OP all sorts of rubbish to dribble on about, and others fell into OP's trap of giving strategy/account examples.

You guys don't need to prove anything when it comes to strategy. You're not in the convincing business.

OP wants confrontation because he enjoys it, or wants his hand held to show him how to make intraday index trading work. Most people responding have played right into that.

Personally, if I meet a jerkoff in person who spews the same words with the same tone, I'd HAPPILY tell him he's wrong, holding back anything that could help the guy trade, while still answering his questions.

So my answer was to 'do I know anyone?': Yes. Multiple People. Manual traders. Long history (in years) of success doing it too. Period. Nothing more.

That's the answer he deserves for his attitude. No one needs to prove anything about themselves in responding to him.


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Now, if OP started the thread: "I'm struggling trying to trade index futures intraday, what am I doing wrong? Let me show you what I've got so far...etc.."

That would be a different story. And at least would show that OP is humble enough to listen and make use of what anyone says.

But that's not the thread this guy started. No. So don't waste your time.
 
Quote from Jack_Larkin:

This thread had potential, til Hershey gave the OP all sorts of rubbish to dribble on about, and others fell into OP's trap of giving strategy/account examples.

You guys don't need to prove anything when it comes to strategy. You're not in the convincing business.

OP wants confrontation because he enjoys it, or wants his hand held to show him how to make intraday index trading work. Most people responding have played right into that.

Personally, if I meet a jerkoff in person who spews the same words with the same tone, I'd HAPPILY tell him he's wrong while holding back anything that could help the guy trade while still answering his questions.

So my answer was to 'do I know anyone?': Yes. Multiple People. Manual traders. Long history (in years) of success doing it too. Period. Nothing more.

That's the answer he deserves for his attitude. No one needs to prove anything about themselves responding to him.


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Now, if OP started the thread: "I'm struggling trying to trade index futures intraday, what am I doing wrong? Let me show you what I've got so far...etc.."

That would be a different story. And at least would show that OP is humble enough to listen and make sue of what anyone says.

But that's not the thread this guy started. No. So don't waste your time.
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hey Jack, I was having a pretty good day, especially now that the market is closed and I'm not losing anymore on my short usd, then you had to chime in and make me feel really bad about myself, for replying to a losers thread. Isn't there anybody out there that just wants to make me feel good about myself?

too many men

what we need here on et is more dames

we got ping pong

what aint we got?

we aint got dames
 
Quote from Jack_Larkin:

Personally, if I meet a jerkoff in person who spews the same words with the same tone...

That's the answer he deserves for his attitude. No one needs to prove anything about themselves in responding to him.

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Now, if OP started the thread: "I'm struggling trying to trade index futures intraday, what am I doing wrong? Let me show you what I've got so far...etc.."

That would be a different story. And at least would show that OP is humble enough to listen and make use of what anyone says.

But that's not the thread this guy started. No. So don't waste your time.
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+1

Exactly.
 
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Whatever happened to riding the trend? Who told you one can only scalp?

I have concluded that it is impossible to have a decent conversation on ET. Source material: your thread... :)
 
Regardless, the thread is up there and I only read the stuff at the end!

I would feel bad taking 20,000$ Even if it was peanuts. The problem is that 20,000 to one that has limits is not fare to take.

I hate donating to charities knowing the cost of marketing. Giving money to you directly would actually save me money.

It would also excuse me from showing you my statements.

But if push came to shove I am sure I have a statement some where you would like. An MF Global account was cut short If you are willing to excuse the black swan on the last day I may have a sheet I can show you.

But in all seriousness, do you think you can find sufficient proof of consistent profit ?

Has some one not tried to take your offer ?

I am wondering one thing though.

How did you come to your conclusion ?
 
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Regardless, the thread is up there and I only read the stuff at the end!

I would feel bad taking 20,000$ Even if it was peanuts. The problem is that 20,000 to one that has limits is not fare to take.

I hate donating to charities knowing the cost of marketing. Giving money to you directly would actually save me money.

It would also excuse me from showing you my statements.

But if push came to shove I am sure I have a statement some where you would like. An MF Global account was cut short If you are willing to excuse the black swan on the last day I may have a sheet I can show you.

But in all seriousness, do you think you can find sufficient proof of consistent profit ?

Has some one not tried to take your offer ?

I am wondering one thing though.

How did you come to your conclusion ?
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I probably missed something. Does anybody offer $20K for the proof of consistent day trading index futures? What is criteria for "consistent"?
 
It means that you are at a level that 20 k to show your statements is an insult by principle.

It means that you are so good that you would rather show it for free.

That is my take on such a request.

But it is good offer on the OP's side. Im a fan of productivity
 
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It means that you are at a level that 20 k to show your statements is an insult by principle.

It means that you are so good that you would rather show it for free.

That is my take on such a request.

But it is good offer on the OP's side. Im a fan of productivity
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I have no idea why OP wants to pay for the statement. It can be photoshopped or it can be a separate account with a lucky streak et cetera. And the most important: how would such a statement benefit to the OP? Boost of confidence that "it's possible"? :confused:
 
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