It's time to start shunning the 'vaccine hesitant.' They're blocking COVID herd immunity.

jem said:
Either these experts are morons... or so full of shit.. .they should fired... immediately.


"Any adverse side effects from vaccines almost always "show up within the first two weeks, and certainly by the first two months," said Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health."

Any expert who was interested in truly educating others... rather than being a douchebag controlling fascist would immediately qualify the above statement and state... but... this is not an traditional vaccine. So we don't really know.
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Still shoveling anti-vaxxer nonsense, eh.
 
Two videos that are short and dumbs it all down for everybody even for those that didn't finish high school or had low ACT/SAT scores.



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gwb-trading said:
First anyone referring to an mRNA vaccine as gene therapy is pushing complete antivaxxer nonsense. mRNA vaccines do not alter genes, they are not "gene therapy" or do any "gene replacement" --- all of these talking points are nonsense being pushed by COVID-deniers and antivaxxers.

It should be noted that other mRNA vaccines for cancer and other diseases have been developed, placed in trials, and studied for years. Any long-term consequences of mRNA vaccines based on the technology are well known by now -- and there are no long term significant consequences related to a vaccine being based on mRNA technology other than other technology.

Let's get to the facts of the vaccines and long term effects.. We will start with quoting a section of the following article...

Covid-19 vaccine myths: These reasons for not getting a shot don't hold up. In fact, they'll set the US back
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/health/covid-vaccine-myths-debunked/index.html

'We don't know what the long-term side effects are'
Any adverse side effects from vaccines almost always "show up within the first two weeks, and certainly by the first two months," said Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health.

That's why he and many other health experts asked the US Food and Drug Administration to wait at least two months after trial participants had been inoculated before considering whether to give emergency authorization to Covid-19 vaccines.

"If there were going to (be) problems ... they would become apparent within two months of people getting vaccinated," he said. "That's what the FDA waited for."

The most serious vaccine side effects in history have all been caught within six weeks, said Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and a member of the FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee.

"I would say, please tell me what vaccine has ever been shown to cause a long-term side effect that was not picked up in the first two months," said Offit, a co-creator of the rotavirus vaccine who has studied vaccinology for more than four decades.

"The smallpox vaccine could cause inflammation of the heart muscle. The oral polio vaccine was a rare cause of polio -- it occurred in roughly 1 in 2.4 million doses. ... The yellow fever vaccine is a rare cause of ... yellow fever. All those occurred within six weeks of getting a dose," he said.

There may be very rare side effects that aren't immediately found in clinical trials. But that's due to the extreme rarity of those side effects -- "not because it's a long-term problem," Offit said.

"Sometimes you're not going to pick it up initially because it's extremely rare, so you aren't going to pick up a one-in-a-million risk in a trial of 44,000 people," he said.

Pfizer/BioNTech and Johnson & Johnson had about 44,000 participants in each of their trials. Half the volunteers got vaccinated, and the other half got placebos.

The Moderna trial had about 30,000 participants, with half receiving vaccines and half receiving placebos.

And because coronavirus is highly contagious -- killing more than half a million Americans and leaving many survivors with long-term complications -- you're much better off getting the vaccine.
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Depends on how you define gene therapy.
There are many definitions.

I am aware that it’s not altering genes but that doesn’t exclude mRNA VAX from being considered a form of gene therapy.
Maybe they will change the definition like they did the definition of herd immunity to satiate the big pharma tards?
 
jem said:
Not that I am anti vaccine for older adults and the high risk... but what a fucking dangerous asshole he is for acting like we know the long term risks for new technology.

How is it possible to know without data over 3 to 5 years?
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The attendant risks of these vaccines would not be known for another year atleast. The data to assess the risk of these vaccines, they are just compiling now. So far, these are other doctors saying this, that more people have died compared to flu vaccines which was adequately, tested, by a factor of 10 to 1. That means 10 times more people have died from these experimental vaccines compared to the flu vaccines which were adequately, tested by the same FDA giving these drug companies approval.
 
Nothing wrong with waiting for more data.

At least many seem to move on from the "microchips in the vaccine", "Democrats mind control drug", "change your genes and make you a zombie" (my favorite), "fake vaccines / disappearing needles", "you'll get Bell's Palsy", "you'll go to heaven if killed for refusing to take the vaccine", "trained to accept having no Freedom", "vaccines are gene therapy".....
  • Many more misinformation / disinformation by all kinds of people in different types of professions, cults and Qanon.
Like I said, if you want to wait...that's fine. Yet, to post misinformation / disinformation online for political reasons doesn't make sense considering the vaccines were created via Operation Warp Speed (Trump / Biden Administration) to post the same crap online to try to change the mind of others that could impact their health when you're anonymous...

We know what your are.

Simply, if you think you have better chances with Covid than taking the vaccine...good luck with that if you have an existing underlying medical condition or didn't know you had one or you roll the dice that you will not develop any long-haulers Covid illnesses after surviving a Covid infection...

Good Luck

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This is why you are a douchebag who is a disgrace to those American's who fought for or safeguarded your in other ways freedoms.

You lie and lie and lie.
You characterize those who have all their vaccines... whose family has all the vaccines as anti vaxxers...

you are a piece of shit... low as human beings get who are not actually out murdering people.



gwb-trading said:
Still shoveling anti-vaxxer nonsense, eh.
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If your constitutional protected freedoms were actually being harmed upon by the exercise of mine... then we might have a classic clash of constitutional rights... which the Sup Court might decide.

So tell us using facts and data how your constitutional rights are being harmed.
Then we can discuss who the Sup Court might approach the situation.






Ricter said:
Danger - you are being conditioned to view your freedom as greater than my freedom.
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