It's time to short the market.

[tommcginnis]

Apologies for the naive question, but how is this done without getting eaten alive by brokerage fees?

versus

 

[Scataphagos]

You are absolutely correct. However you forget two things:

1. Indices are not tradable. You have to trade index futures, which are still open after 4pm. If you execute your orders around 4:30pm, your chances of getting big gap is slim.

2. Most ETFs are still trading in after hours with sufficient liquidity to fill your orders. If you want trade the most profitable YINN, you can use FTSE China A futures, which is open at night as well.

1. NDX... I was merely noting that. Of course one can't "trade the index", but the index is the underlying of any ETF/Futures based on it.

2. Agree about looking for trade execution during extended hours rather than waiting until next RTH opening.

 

[beginner66]

You are absolutely correct. However you forget two things:

1. Indices are not tradable. You have to trade index futures, which are still open after 4pm. If you execute your orders around 4:30pm, your chances of getting big gap is slim.

2. Most ETFs are still trading in after hours with sufficient liquidity to fill your orders. If you want trade the most profitable YINN, you can use FTSE China A futures, which is open at night as well.

Hi Junkou
I am in NZ.... re your point 1 above can you give an eg of an index future that is still open after 4pm EST ? ie after ES closes during day session. In other words what index future is still open that is derived from or related to the S&P ...many thanks

also is there an ETF that is derived from or closely follow the ES/S&P in after hour trading ?
thank you

good luck to all

John

 

[Cuddles]

OP, what says you crystal ball? Mine's in the shop

 

[Junkou]

Hi Junkou
I am in NZ.... re your point 1 above can you give an eg of an index future that is still open after 4pm EST ? ie after ES closes during day session. In other words what index future is still open that is derived from or related to the S&P ...many thanks

also is there an ETF that is derived from or closely follow the ES/S&P in after hour trading ?
thank you

good luck to all

John

Besides NQ and ES (Nasdaq 100 and Sp 500 e-mini), FTSE China A (XINA50 in IB) is open until 4:45 EST. Quite liquid.

 

[vanzandt]

Besides NQ and ES (Nasdaq 100 and Sp 500 e-mini), FTSE China A (XINA50 in IB) is open until 4:45 EST. Quite liquid.

Whatcha think about that BIDU report tonight?

 

[Junkou]

Whatcha think about that BIDU report tonight?

Earnings already out. Good for price.

 

[Junkou]

What a MAGIC week!