Finally an issue we can work with.
I know a lot of you thought after such success that we would forgo further Baron's Games and leave on a high. NOPE. It's just that the issues have sucked royally lately and the great Roundtable this year is very lame with only KALU coming out as a solid idea of the first two rounds { from Whitmer again!-she's good with it)
Having tossed the renewal slip in the trash, I can confirm this may be near the last of the Barron's Games for a while but for now we have some grist so without further ado ... Wait one thing. I read this issue in the bath and messed the order of the pages of the roundtable up and got them wet, in some cases I have had to consult directly with the interview subjects to put this back together..,
Aside from the roundtable this issues theme is big oil is back and I have been thinking along similar lines lately. It looks like gold and commodities are back too and Ag... ugh. What's next the shippers? Well we do have one of those today. And an oil play or two as well.
In Dividends FASTENAL is mentioned 27 cent bonus dividend This could be an Obama play because they distribute nuts, bolts clamps and clips to the industrial and construction community. Full year earnings UP 20% from 07" Rev UP 13.5%. Not bad in this climate. Sales have turned down, but this is a good co. I've owned it in the past for several years running. Probably a good idea, in dividends you often find the good ones...FAST
OK this next part hurts not only do they do a whole article about aftermarket car parts they list all the companies and then highlight O'Reilly! Damn that's the one we had from $22 to $26.... right here at ET.... and sold. There was initially an article in Barrons with some smarty pants analysts who highlighted the stock. Now this article AND in this same issue Mario Gabelli is going to recommend it at $31.40!!! Arrrg...ORLY.
Props are paid to an interesting stock Kyocera a Japanese stock that has caught my eye before. They are makers of solar panels, cellphones, office and telecommunication equipment- they have a cash hoard of $9 BILLION. and virtually no debt..... priced at $67 worth $90 the bulls say.... Cash alone folks is worth $45 a share! the rest of the $13 billion in revenue is being given to you for $20..... I love this idea. Big european sales in solar remain firm. Now worth 1/2 of the profits! KYO...
Oil picks exxon BP, Total & Petrobas. I don't love these picks Total would probably be my favorite.
Nice little mention of old stoney fave, take me to the grave why don't ya? down hill skier... FOCUS MEDIA....Chinese - they have sold off their biggest assets and what's left is dirt cheap but it's hard to get excited about this name again, I prefer younger competitor VISN. Focus is down some 90% and they have this complex thing going on with SINA, they combine the FMCN outdoor digital ad unit with Sina and existing FMCN shareholders get some new shares in the combo - 47 million shares .. Focus shareholder get less than half the company- that all stock deal is worth $1 billion more than Focus's market cap of $916 million but wait Focus kept some good stuff, an interenet advertising unit , a outdoor billbords unit & roughly a third of $381 million combined cash.... that's all for free... an interesting call from Oscar Gruss! There's an even more complex way to play this merger- shorting 0.37 Sina for every share of Focus, both boards have oked the deal, this is free money but for the advanced investor.
Lets get to the roundtable already!
So far we have- FAST/ORLY/KYO/TOT/FMCN
HEY GUYS I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING ONLINE WITH ME OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THIS TELECONFERENCING...
Mario Gabelli: you mean Picturetel? Sorry about that one Stoney from a few years back! (laughter)
SETTLE DOWN EVERYONE. OK SCOTT BLACK YEAR AFTER YEAR YOU ARE MY FAVORITE YOU HAIL FROM DELPHI MANAGEMENT WHERE YOU HOLD THE TITLE OF PRESIDENT & FOUNDER! I HAVE A BIT OF A MANCRUSH ON YOUR BRAIN.GO.
Scott Black- I love Oracle laugh if you will but I can humilate you with a five minute rant of why I like it if you like?
THINK YOU CAN?
Scott Black: 2nd half rev could rise 3%earnings 1st half were $3.3 billion Oppoprating margins 43% profits before taxes of $5.27 billion ROE is 32%.
earns 30% on equity with no debt for ten years. It's a money machine. In 2010 it could generate $7 billion free cash cash flow.
WOW. YOU ALSO LIKE GENERAL DYNAMICS & ENDO PHARM, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ONE'S THAT CAUGHT MY EYE, XTO,AMERON & STEALTHGAS...
Scott Black: XTO did a smart thing they hedged 77% of their nat gas production in 2009. They have 62,500 barrels of oil a day to sell at $118.85! 1.6 billion cubic feet of gas is spoken for at $8.94. Bought Hunt Petroleum last year for $4.2 billion. They are going to cut their capital spending budget from $5.8 billion to $3.8, they are wed to the notion of knocking $1 to $2 billion of debt off the balance sheet. Stock sells for 8.3 times earnings and thanks to the hedging will be one of the few energy companies with rising earnings.
NICE ONE. I LIKE THAT CALL. WHAT ABOUT AMERON.
Scott Black: Infrastructure play. Lots of pipes for water projects .
LETS MOVE ON WHAT THE HECK IS STEALTHGAS?
Scott Black: Stealth specializes in short-haul, feeder boats, 4 customers make up 60% of revenue. Shell Statoil, Petredee, and Vitol. The fleet OF 39 BOATS is 10 years old. On a scrap value basis the fleet is worth $560 million, less net debt of $225 million that leaves $335 million or $15 a share.
WOW THE STOCK IS $4.73 WITH A 15.8% YIELD!!!!
Scott Black: They company may cut that dividend, to buy shares or cut debt.
Mario Gabelli: Can I go now? Geez. My interesting ones are Asent media & Oreilly auto. Oreilly is $31 and I'm recommending it now when the others guys in this paper did so at $24...
LETS SKIP STRAIGHT TO ASCENT THEN, THIS IS A PLAY ON THE MOVE TO DIGITAL IS IT NOT?
Mario Gabelli: Yes Ascent has only 13.4 million A shares and and a $320 mln market bvalue. It was spun out of Discovery and trades to a discount to cash. Ascent specializes in platforms that enhance digital tech & media- $50 mln in EBITDA, $25 a share in cash and trades for $22.62...
THANKS GUYS YOU CAME TO PLAY. LETS WRAP THIS UP WITH AN INTERESTING PICK FROM OSCAR SCHAFER.
Oscar Schafer: Lender Processing Systems LPS- provides banks with software that help them service or finance mortgages... no 1 player in a nich industry. the business is likely to befit from the current turmoil in housing, they are more leveraged to the rising default and forclosure side. A large shareholder was forced ouT driving the stock down to $29 and it's worth $50, 16 X 09' est....
GEEZ OSCAR I'M CALLING MY BROKER TOMORROW!
Lets wrap up folks from the roundtable we have-
ORACLE/ XTO/STEALTHGAS/O'REILLY AUTO/ ASCENT MEDIA AND LENDER PROCESSING.
ASCMA - ASCENT
ORCL - ORACLE
XTO- XTO ENERGY
GASS- STEALTHGAS
ORLY- O'REILLY
LPS- LENDER PROCESSING
ALONG WITH
FAST/KYO/TOT/FMCN..... 9 IDEAS!, now which one to use? ~ stoney
I know a lot of you thought after such success that we would forgo further Baron's Games and leave on a high. NOPE. It's just that the issues have sucked royally lately and the great Roundtable this year is very lame with only KALU coming out as a solid idea of the first two rounds { from Whitmer again!-she's good with it)
Having tossed the renewal slip in the trash, I can confirm this may be near the last of the Barron's Games for a while but for now we have some grist so without further ado ... Wait one thing. I read this issue in the bath and messed the order of the pages of the roundtable up and got them wet, in some cases I have had to consult directly with the interview subjects to put this back together..,
Aside from the roundtable this issues theme is big oil is back and I have been thinking along similar lines lately. It looks like gold and commodities are back too and Ag... ugh. What's next the shippers? Well we do have one of those today. And an oil play or two as well.
In Dividends FASTENAL is mentioned 27 cent bonus dividend This could be an Obama play because they distribute nuts, bolts clamps and clips to the industrial and construction community. Full year earnings UP 20% from 07" Rev UP 13.5%. Not bad in this climate. Sales have turned down, but this is a good co. I've owned it in the past for several years running. Probably a good idea, in dividends you often find the good ones...FAST
OK this next part hurts not only do they do a whole article about aftermarket car parts they list all the companies and then highlight O'Reilly! Damn that's the one we had from $22 to $26.... right here at ET.... and sold. There was initially an article in Barrons with some smarty pants analysts who highlighted the stock. Now this article AND in this same issue Mario Gabelli is going to recommend it at $31.40!!! Arrrg...ORLY.
Props are paid to an interesting stock Kyocera a Japanese stock that has caught my eye before. They are makers of solar panels, cellphones, office and telecommunication equipment- they have a cash hoard of $9 BILLION. and virtually no debt..... priced at $67 worth $90 the bulls say.... Cash alone folks is worth $45 a share! the rest of the $13 billion in revenue is being given to you for $20..... I love this idea. Big european sales in solar remain firm. Now worth 1/2 of the profits! KYO...
Oil picks exxon BP, Total & Petrobas. I don't love these picks Total would probably be my favorite.
Nice little mention of old stoney fave, take me to the grave why don't ya? down hill skier... FOCUS MEDIA....Chinese - they have sold off their biggest assets and what's left is dirt cheap but it's hard to get excited about this name again, I prefer younger competitor VISN. Focus is down some 90% and they have this complex thing going on with SINA, they combine the FMCN outdoor digital ad unit with Sina and existing FMCN shareholders get some new shares in the combo - 47 million shares .. Focus shareholder get less than half the company- that all stock deal is worth $1 billion more than Focus's market cap of $916 million but wait Focus kept some good stuff, an interenet advertising unit , a outdoor billbords unit & roughly a third of $381 million combined cash.... that's all for free... an interesting call from Oscar Gruss! There's an even more complex way to play this merger- shorting 0.37 Sina for every share of Focus, both boards have oked the deal, this is free money but for the advanced investor.
Lets get to the roundtable already!
So far we have- FAST/ORLY/KYO/TOT/FMCN
HEY GUYS I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING ONLINE WITH ME OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THIS TELECONFERENCING...
Mario Gabelli: you mean Picturetel? Sorry about that one Stoney from a few years back! (laughter)
SETTLE DOWN EVERYONE. OK SCOTT BLACK YEAR AFTER YEAR YOU ARE MY FAVORITE YOU HAIL FROM DELPHI MANAGEMENT WHERE YOU HOLD THE TITLE OF PRESIDENT & FOUNDER! I HAVE A BIT OF A MANCRUSH ON YOUR BRAIN.GO.
Scott Black- I love Oracle laugh if you will but I can humilate you with a five minute rant of why I like it if you like?
THINK YOU CAN?
Scott Black: 2nd half rev could rise 3%earnings 1st half were $3.3 billion Oppoprating margins 43% profits before taxes of $5.27 billion ROE is 32%.
earns 30% on equity with no debt for ten years. It's a money machine. In 2010 it could generate $7 billion free cash cash flow.
WOW. YOU ALSO LIKE GENERAL DYNAMICS & ENDO PHARM, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ONE'S THAT CAUGHT MY EYE, XTO,AMERON & STEALTHGAS...
Scott Black: XTO did a smart thing they hedged 77% of their nat gas production in 2009. They have 62,500 barrels of oil a day to sell at $118.85! 1.6 billion cubic feet of gas is spoken for at $8.94. Bought Hunt Petroleum last year for $4.2 billion. They are going to cut their capital spending budget from $5.8 billion to $3.8, they are wed to the notion of knocking $1 to $2 billion of debt off the balance sheet. Stock sells for 8.3 times earnings and thanks to the hedging will be one of the few energy companies with rising earnings.
NICE ONE. I LIKE THAT CALL. WHAT ABOUT AMERON.
Scott Black: Infrastructure play. Lots of pipes for water projects .
LETS MOVE ON WHAT THE HECK IS STEALTHGAS?
Scott Black: Stealth specializes in short-haul, feeder boats, 4 customers make up 60% of revenue. Shell Statoil, Petredee, and Vitol. The fleet OF 39 BOATS is 10 years old. On a scrap value basis the fleet is worth $560 million, less net debt of $225 million that leaves $335 million or $15 a share.
WOW THE STOCK IS $4.73 WITH A 15.8% YIELD!!!!
Scott Black: They company may cut that dividend, to buy shares or cut debt.
Mario Gabelli: Can I go now? Geez. My interesting ones are Asent media & Oreilly auto. Oreilly is $31 and I'm recommending it now when the others guys in this paper did so at $24...
LETS SKIP STRAIGHT TO ASCENT THEN, THIS IS A PLAY ON THE MOVE TO DIGITAL IS IT NOT?
Mario Gabelli: Yes Ascent has only 13.4 million A shares and and a $320 mln market bvalue. It was spun out of Discovery and trades to a discount to cash. Ascent specializes in platforms that enhance digital tech & media- $50 mln in EBITDA, $25 a share in cash and trades for $22.62...
THANKS GUYS YOU CAME TO PLAY. LETS WRAP THIS UP WITH AN INTERESTING PICK FROM OSCAR SCHAFER.
Oscar Schafer: Lender Processing Systems LPS- provides banks with software that help them service or finance mortgages... no 1 player in a nich industry. the business is likely to befit from the current turmoil in housing, they are more leveraged to the rising default and forclosure side. A large shareholder was forced ouT driving the stock down to $29 and it's worth $50, 16 X 09' est....
GEEZ OSCAR I'M CALLING MY BROKER TOMORROW!
Lets wrap up folks from the roundtable we have-
ORACLE/ XTO/STEALTHGAS/O'REILLY AUTO/ ASCENT MEDIA AND LENDER PROCESSING.
ASCMA - ASCENT
ORCL - ORACLE
XTO- XTO ENERGY
GASS- STEALTHGAS
ORLY- O'REILLY
LPS- LENDER PROCESSING
ALONG WITH
FAST/KYO/TOT/FMCN..... 9 IDEAS!, now which one to use? ~ stoney