Beware! The limp-wristed Social Justice Warrior hath spoken!
It's summertime, and you know what that means in the big cities. . .
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Beware! The limp-wristed Social Justice Warrior hath spoken!
Could I inquire, do you think you are representative of the average American? Kill thousands of Afghan civilians and you would not blink with your eye. Call your sister a slut and you would move into rival gang territory with your redneck buddies, armed to the teeth to annihilate your E-N-E-M-Y.
In case you are too dumb to realize, this problem is way more complex than you make it out to be. Liberals can be blamed for a decay in moral values in the US. The core blame of a total perversion and departure from a balanced, equal opportunity , armed to the teeth society lies with genetically mutated conservative elements in your nation.
In case you are too dumb to realize, this problem is way more complex than you make it out to be. Liberals can be blamed for a decay in moral values in the US. The core blame of a total perversion and departure from a balanced, equal opportunity , armed to the teeth society lies with genetically mutated conservative elements in your nation.
are you not stereotyping ? Do you know of any other Germans who even speak out the term "jew"? Or are you throwing me into one pot with nazis? Because I pointed to well reported and established facts?
Nazism and Facism are traditionally described as as "far right", while Communism is considered "far left". I don't see them all that different... other than Nazism being an even further extreme of the Left.
"Left", "Right"... semantics.
"Conservative" is what America was founded upon. "Liberal/Left" is what we have now around the world in its many forms. That said, "extreme conservatism" must be an oxymoron.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-28/baltimore-riots-stunning-comments-orioles-owners-son
The Baltimore Riots: The Stunning Comments By Orioles Owner's Son
The day after violent protests left Baltimoreburningin the wake of a funeral held for Freddie Gray who died after sustaining a spinal injury while being taken into policy custody, Americans are struggling to explain how the events that transpired on Monday evening are possible in modern day America. While most are united in their condemnation of indiscriminant violence, many still feel a palpable sense of injustice after witnessing multiple instances of alleged police misconduct over the past year.
In this context we present the followingculledfrom Twitter messages posted by Orioles Executive Vice President John Angelos, son of majority owner Peter Angelos:
“Brett, speaking only for myself, I agree with your point that the principle of peaceful, non-violent protest and the observance of the rule of law is of utmost importance in any society. MLK, Gandhi, Mandela, and all great opposition leaders throughout history have always preached this precept. Further, it is critical that in any democracy investigation must be completed and due process must be honored before any government or police members are judged responsible.
That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.
The innocent working families of all backgrounds whose lives and dreams have been cut short by excessive violence, surveillance, and other abuses of the Bill of Rights by government pay the true price, an ultimate price, and one that far exceeds the importance of any kids’ game played tonight, or ever, at Camden Yards. We need to keep in mind people are suffering and dying around the U.S., and while we are thankful no one was injured at Camden Yards, there is a far bigger picture for poor Americans in Baltimore and everywhere who don’t have jobs and are losing economic civil and legal rights, and this makes inconvenience at a ball game irrelevant in light of the needless suffering government is inflicting upon ordinary Americans.”
Not exactly what the US Department of Truth wanted to hear
The Baltimore Riots: The Stunning Comments By Orioles Owner's Son
The day after violent protests left Baltimoreburningin the wake of a funeral held for Freddie Gray who died after sustaining a spinal injury while being taken into policy custody, Americans are struggling to explain how the events that transpired on Monday evening are possible in modern day America. While most are united in their condemnation of indiscriminant violence, many still feel a palpable sense of injustice after witnessing multiple instances of alleged police misconduct over the past year.
In this context we present the followingculledfrom Twitter messages posted by Orioles Executive Vice President John Angelos, son of majority owner Peter Angelos:
“Brett, speaking only for myself, I agree with your point that the principle of peaceful, non-violent protest and the observance of the rule of law is of utmost importance in any society. MLK, Gandhi, Mandela, and all great opposition leaders throughout history have always preached this precept. Further, it is critical that in any democracy investigation must be completed and due process must be honored before any government or police members are judged responsible.
That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.
The innocent working families of all backgrounds whose lives and dreams have been cut short by excessive violence, surveillance, and other abuses of the Bill of Rights by government pay the true price, an ultimate price, and one that far exceeds the importance of any kids’ game played tonight, or ever, at Camden Yards. We need to keep in mind people are suffering and dying around the U.S., and while we are thankful no one was injured at Camden Yards, there is a far bigger picture for poor Americans in Baltimore and everywhere who don’t have jobs and are losing economic civil and legal rights, and this makes inconvenience at a ball game irrelevant in light of the needless suffering government is inflicting upon ordinary Americans.”
Not exactly what the US Department of Truth wanted to hear
Yawn. More excuse making. No I don't think I speak for the average American. The average American is too fucking stupid to see the writing on the wall. The problem isn't complex at all. Tell people over multiple generations that they are entitled to some reparations for things done by others, to others, and eventually they'll act out on that. Excuse their behavior. Rationalize it. Minimize it. Pretend that some bullshit, never to come job will fix it and you have a recipe for disaster. Add in a few incompetent cops, a totally incompetent government at every level, more than a few talking heads at the networks to fan the flames, and Race Baiting Inc. to push the agenda and viola, the entire system comes crashing down. Congrats lefties, job well done.
Yet when you attempt to point out the established and incontrovertible facts to volpunter, he rants and puts you on ignore.
Let's get back to German vs. U.S. college education. After volpunter loudly proclaimed the vast superiority of German college education and how accessible it was to lower income people and stating that the U.S. was a terrible place to raise kids.... I pointed out the facts.
Let's go through them again. In the early 1960s, only 4% of German high school students went on to college. By the late 1960s, this rose to 8.7%. By the time of re-unification the percentage had risen to 30% - where it remains today.
Today 51% of low income students in the U.S. go on to college. While in Germany under 10% of students from low income families go on to college.
So much for opportunity and access to lower income families to education in Germany. These figures are from the German government - yet all volpunter can do when I politely point out the facts to him is call me names and put me on ignore.
Despite his assertions that nearly no German students come to the U.S. for a university eduction (I know many BTW); he himself came to the U.S. for a university education.
Here are the posts with links to the facts -
http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index...ace-to-raise-kids.290287/page-11#post-4099714
http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index...ace-to-raise-kids.290287/page-12#post-4100163
The problem is that the US equates a college education with getting jobs, whereas in Germany, those that don't go to college will go through vocational training programs led by German corporations. The end result in the US is that colleges give many students an education that has no value in the real world.
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/04/149927290/the-secret-to-germanys-low-youth-unemployment
I find these comments to the point:
- Adam Smith • 3 years ago
What is interesting to me is the contrast in the two different work systems. In America every company in the world wants to hire skilled employees--getting the benefit of somebody else's investment--but nobody wants to train them. Then these same companies complain when they can't find enough "skilled workers" to fit their needs. You can't reap what you haven't sown. Somebody has to sow the seeds to reap the harvest. Training is expensive but if companies don't pay it forward they won't ever get the benefit of being paid back from somebody else's investment.
- Rebecca Hansbrough • 3 years ago
Germany shows how you can create free market and government based training programs that develops young people for high demand, high skilled jobs that allows them to earn income while they're learning instead of leaving them with either a huge educational debt or a long term parking space at the family home.
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I agree with you. As pointed out in my earlier posts on the other thread, many high school students are steered in Germany to vocational training programs. One of these (in 1960) was my father-in-law who became a machinist. I am sure that many of these vocational students could have easily handled college, but there are a lack of available university admission slots in Germany (which actually causes a good number of German students to go abroad).
I am a strong supporter of vocational programs, and Germany does an excellent job with them. Most of the vocational programs last from 6 months to 2 years over there. These programs help Germany remain a top country in high-quality manufacturing and other areas.
However, nobody can make a case that Germany is somehow superior in providing opportunity for low income students to get a four year education. Under 10% of low income students in Germany go on to a four year education - one of the lowest rates of any western country.
Edit Update --> Most areas in the U.S. have very solid two year community college programs which are low-cost. Most of these schools have strong corporate involvement. This is our equivalent of "vocational training". We need to steer more young people into these programs with scholarship help... and provide a pathway to jobs. This means we collectively need to increase our investment in these schools.
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Yeah, the typical Left-Right continuum is way off. It was probably designed by moderate Leftists. Nazis were "national socialists" for heaven's sake! Do you really think Hitler was in favor of a small government, individual liberty, the right of citizens to bear arms, etc? The same is true with Mussolini and fascism.