It's Past Time For A Third Party In The US

El OchoCinco said:
People already blame Jill Stien or Bernie for Trump getting elected.

3rd parties don't work for numerous reasons but one interesting one is that most people are sheeple and will blindly follow thier party's line no matter how stupid or bad the candidate's proposed are (plenty of evidence on both sides here). Significant numbers of Dems and GOPs will vote their party no matter how vile they think their candidate is. That prevents any 3rd party from gaining traction because of the fear of the other side winning with thier more vile candidate.
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Because we have a presidential system that requires getting the majority of the electoral college from a direct vote, a third party is very unlikely at the presidential level.

The best bet is to do what conservatives have done throughout American history, take over a party from the inside out. Does that make you a parasite? Yes. Does this ultimately end in total collapse of the party?Yes. But is it a more viable option than running a third party? Ask Teddy Roosevelt, or would Woodrow Wilson be a better person to ask?
 
UsualName said:
Because we have a presidential system that requires getting the majority of the electoral college from a direct vote, a third party is very unlikely at the presidential level.

The best bet is to do what conservatives have done throughout American history, take over a party from the inside out. Does that make you a parasite? Yes. Does this ultimately end in total collapse of the party?Yes. But is it a more viable option than running a third party? Ask Teddy Roosevelt, or would Woodrow Wilson be a better person to ask?
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Nothing like having someone whose candidate is home watching the Price is Right lecture you on how to have a winning party.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Oh, I think I have always been clear that it includes- but is not limited to- the FBI.

"the president wants to be kept fully informed"

- Lisa Page text
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Of course. Just know your rabbit hole ends with a smoking man and a space alien corpse on gurney.
 
AAAintheBeltway said:
The election of Donald Trump marked a clear rejection of the establishment republican party. None of their favored candidates would have had a chance of defeating Hillary Clinton, any more than John McCain or Mitt Romney did of prevailing. Nevertheless, congressional republicans made it their job to block the signature initiatives of Trump and forced him, using the threat of Mueller as leverage, to go along with more of their same old corporatist crap.

Trump won because he energized working class voters in the Midwest who typically voted the union label or just skipped voting altogether as a waste of time. So what did republicans do to solidify their hold on this important new bloc? Why, they did what they always have done. Tax cuts for billionaires, more defense spending and desperately trying to start new wars in Syria and Iran.

Oh yeah, Trump moved the embassy in Israel, a real vote getter for coal miners and steelworkers. But that will bump his total of the jewish vote in NY and California to 4% from 1 %, so mission accomplished.

And we got more of their pathetic virtue signaling. John McCain's legacy of backstabbing other republicans is being carried on proudly by Mitt Romney. They tried to ruin the one guy in the congress who was concerned about the invasion of our country by illegal aliens, Steve King. At the same time, they seemed genuinely puzzled as to why formerly reliable red states like Florida, Georgia, Texas and Arizona are suddenly in play. Hint: look at what happened in California, which once elected Ronald Reagan governor. Rather than address the obvious reason, immigration, they are actually trotting out their tired hamburgers versus socialism argument. Good luck with that guys, seriously. But back in the real world, actual citizens who do not get the free health care given illegals are struggling with their medical insurance bills and paying outrageous college tuitions. What do they have on that? Nothing, that's what.

The UK faced a similar problem of wilfull pols determined to backstab their voters. Brexit was just the tip fo the iceberg but it was a pretty big tip and not one that could be swept under the rug like muslim rape gangs have been. A group of doughty Brits, led by Nigel Farage (is there some way he could be appointed our Sec. of State?) formed a new party and overnight destroyed the Tories.
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No----that would just siphon votes from The Republican Party and allow Anti-American Leftist Dems to win. ---What needs to happen is a revamping of The Republican Party and that starts with term limit impositions.
 
UsualName said:
Of course. Just know your rabbit hole ends with a smoking man and a space alien corpse on gurney.
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Let's just continue to investigate it for two years now that Durham is on the scene and then we will see what's what.

We should just be trusting the professionals and not interfering with with him and the Attorney General- that would be obstruction.



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TreeFrogTrader said:
Let's just continue to investigate it for two years now that Durham is on the scene and then we will see what's what.

We should just be trusting the professionals and not interfering with with him and the Attorney General- that would be obstruction.



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Watch out, y’all, Durham and Barr are doing performance reviews.
 
UsualName said:
Watch out, y’all, Durham and Barr are doing performance reviews.
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Horowitz is doing performance reviews too.

Last time he did one, the former Acting Director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe lost half his retirement and has been out of work for two years- I guess because they would not give him a recommendation or something. or maybe its that pesky little referral for criminal investigation.



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