It's Official now! Welcome to Communist America, Comrade!

Free Thinker · Jun 23, 2009

Quote from Scataphagos:

Of course I'm "one sided"... I'm one of the "cart pullers", not a rider. And I don't agree he's "doing a better job"... he's doing a DIFFERENT JOB with a different agenda... once which will destroy America, yet the majority of Americans can't see it...

Obama cult zombies are brainwashed and blinded by greed..

Jim Jones followers worshiped him as a god..

have you considered the fact if most other people disagree with you it may be you that is missing something?

"Obama cult zombies are brainwashed and blinded by greed.."
obamas popularity is across too wide of the population spectrum for this to be possible.

Landis82 · Jun 23, 2009

Quote from vhehn:

wow. its a tough time for you right wingers. the product you have invested your life into has been demonstraded not to work and the people dont want to hear it anymore. you have no new ideas so you are reduced to being the party of no.
all the while obama goes about the business of tackling problems that are long overdue.
interesting times.

+1

But leave it to the "neo-cons" and George Bush Lovers that inhabit this Forum to actually claim that the GOP has solutions to all of the problems that this country is currently facing . . .

Think the GOP has a solution to fix health care in this country? Was there ever an Energy policy under Bush during his 8 years?

Think again.

But leave it to the "AAA's" and "Gnomes" of ET to believe otherwise . . . so much denial, so much bitterness, so little time.

If those guys actually trade for a living, I'd be shocked. Their "mind-set" is that of paranoia and epic failure . . . nothing more, nothing less.

Kassz007 · Jun 23, 2009

Quote from ByLoSellHi:

What is the Ontario Tax Rate? And then what does one have to add to that (GST?) to get a fair approximation of what income tax rates are, generally speaking, compared to U.S. rates?

I'm asking because I don't know, not because I'm being sarcastic.

Sample tax calculation for someone living in Ontario making $70,000 in 2008:

Federal taxes
15% x $38,832 = $5,825
22% x $31,168 = $8,543

Ontario taxes
6.05% x $36,848 = $2,229
9.15% x $33,152 = $3,033

Total taxes paid = $19,630
Effective Tax Rate = $19,630/$70,000 = 28%

GST is paid at the consumer level and is 5% of purchases of the non-essential nature (doesn't include groceries etc.). Most people qualify for a quarterly GST credit which knocks this down.

Generally speaking, ~28% is a good estimate in Ontario for that income level. I'm not sure how this compares to some of you in the USA right now, but it's far from 42%.

dewton · Jun 23, 2009

We talk about taxes and such and how they suck, how they're necessary, how they equal socialism, etc. but no one talks about the enormous interest payment on total debt paid to private bankers each year, which far surpasses any sort of tax!! if we get rid of these payments, we don't need taxes at all! is anyone listening?

Free Thinker · Jun 23, 2009

Quote from Kassz007:

Sample tax calculation for someone living in Ontario making $70,000 in 2008:

Federal taxes
15% x $38,832 = $5,825
22% x $31,168 = $8,543

Ontario taxes
6.05% x $36,848 = $2,229
9.15% x $33,152 = $3,033

Total taxes paid = $19,630
Effective Tax Rate = $19,630/$70,000 = 28%

GST is paid at the consumer level and is 5% of purchases of the non-essential nature (doesn't include groceries etc.). Most people qualify for a quarterly GST credit which knocks this down.

Generally speaking, ~28% is a good estimate in Ontario for that income level. I'm not sure how this compares to some of you in the USA right now, but it's far from 42%.

another american myth busted.ie if you have free healthcare like canada you will have horrible taxes like canada.

Tom B · Jun 23, 2009

Quote from Kassz007:

Sample tax calculation for someone living in Ontario making $70,000 in 2008:

Federal taxes
15% x $38,832 = $5,825
22% x $31,168 = $8,543

Ontario taxes
6.05% x $36,848 = $2,229
9.15% x $33,152 = $3,033

Total taxes paid = $19,630
Effective Tax Rate = $19,630/$70,000 = 28%

GST is paid at the consumer level and is 5% of purchases of the non-essential nature (doesn't include groceries etc.). Most people qualify for a quarterly GST credit which knocks this down.

Generally speaking, ~28% is a good estimate in Ontario for that income level. I'm not sure how this compares to some of you in the USA right now, but it's far from 42%.

http://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/on.htm

Landis82 · Jun 23, 2009

Quote from JOSEF:

Communism in America started a lot earlier than that. Heck, even worse, foreign car companies received free US money from state governments such as Alabama if they set up plants in those states. That's not capitalism, that's a form of communism.

By the way, I find it amusing that the same people that are so against health care reform and the costs associated with, had no problems spending other people's money on the Iraq war.

Exactly.

It's also amusing to see that all of these so-called "free-market" GOP types on these boards don't seem to have a problem with the FACT that people's health-care premiums have been going up +5.5% per year while the employee contribution demanded by Corporate America on the employee has surged by +12% per year*.

For them, everything was just "peachy" under GW Bush.

*Kaiser Foundation.

Kassz007 · Jun 23, 2009

Quote from Tom B:

http://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/on.htm

Dude, those are COMBINED federal and provincial tax rates in your link...do the calculation with the rates you just posted in your link and you will see that it comes out to the same amount.

A common misconception when people are looking at tax rates is to assume someone's entire income is taxed at the rate at which their income falls under, but in reality different portions of your income are taxed at different rates.

It is indeed a myth that Canadians pay exorbant amounts of taxes to pay for healthcare.