It's Official now! Welcome to Communist America, Comrade!

[JOSEF]

Quote from peilthetraveler:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_drugs

First free money for the banks, then free money for the Auto makers, now for the drug companies. Welcome to Communist America. Cant wait to get my first national check and food coupon! I wonder what job America will assign me? Economic advisor? Teacher? Construction worker? Septic tank cleaner? This should be fun!

Communism in America started a lot earlier than that. Heck, even worse, foreign car companies received free US money from state governments such as Alabama if they set up plants in those states. That's not capitalism, that's a form of communism.

By the way, I find it amusing that the same people that are so against health care reform and the costs associated with, had no problems spending other people's money on the Iraq war.

Furthermore, unless you want to privatize our military, our police force and our fire departments you believe in communism as well. Comrade...

 

[eminitrader007]

Quote from fkbsuhites:

Yep, couldn't agree more. Time to pay the piper for letting Bush into office.

Well in that case the supreme court should pay for it....people did not elect Bush in 2000.

 

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from fkbsuhites:

You are 8 years too late with your silly prognostication.

Commie fascists were appointed by the supreme court 8 years ago.

Yeah, but NOW its official. Wasnt official before, but now we all know it.

 

[BartS]

Here's a definition of communism, so we can once and for all bury this term since it is not going to happen in the US.And stop using it to talk about socialism.

"Communism (from Latin: communis = "common") is a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general.[1][2][3] In political science, the term "communism" is sometimes used to refer to communist states, a form of government in which the state operates under a one-party system and declares allegiance to Marxism-Leninism or a derivative thereof, even if the party does not actually claim that it has already reached communism."


And arguing capitalism vs socialism is pretty much beating a dead horse....The end result in both systems is the same: the minority of the population is rich, the majority is broke and a portion is middle class....The only thing that changes is how the governement sells it to the public.

We could compare the US - France - Russia and Germany: they all function differently but the big picture is the same: the people who we vote for don't give a fuck whether they use a hammer or a screwdriver to drive that nail in your coffin, as long as the bottom line is met....

 

[BartS]

"commie fascists"

Whoever wrote that needs to do some serious reading...the guy hears a pejorative epithet or two and puts them together thinking it sounds cool....I'll care to explain if need be....

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from dewton:

actually its a lot more illogical to believe that life came about by random chance/mutations than believe it was created.

you can put a set of atoms in a container and zap it for a trillion years and you still won't create a bird.

Yes it's far more believable that a magical genie snapped his fingers and everything suddenly appeared...

 

[Scataphagos]

Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

Not worried. Let Obama run this country towards Socialism. The majority voted him in, the majority will get what they deserve.

Personally, I don't generally care about those who get involved in a cult and its activities.

That "the majority deserve what they voted for", the Obama cult is going to ruin my life and my kids' lives as well.

F^CK that!

 

[Mnphats]

Quote from eminitrader007:

Well in that case the supreme court should pay for it....people did not elect Bush in 2000.

Time to let it go.

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from ByLoSellHi:

I think all reasonable people know where it's headed - even though reasonable people may be in the extreme minority.

We're headed at a rapid clip towards Canadian style social welfare, cradle to grave, with the high tax rates on the top 50% of wage earners (I spoke with a realtor in Toronto who admitted to me that her and her firefighter husband made $70,000 per year and paid a total of 42% in taxes, not including GST).

I have an accounting degree and have taken more than my fair share of tax courses. Believe me, we do not pay much more in taxes than the average American. The 42% you mentioned above is certainly not representative of what most Canadians pay. Anectdotal evidence is useless.

Perhpas there is a reason the USA is moving in this direction?

 

[clacy]

Quote from Kassz007:

I have an accounting degree and have taken more than my fair share of tax courses. Believe me, we do not pay much more in taxes than the average American. The 42% you mentioned above is certainly not representative of what most Canadians pay. Anectdotal evidence is useless.

Perhpas there is a reason the USA is moving in this direction?

Yes, it's called CLASS WARFARE.

It's not so much rich vs poor as it has been througout history, but in the US it's those that don't want to work vs those that do.

There is abundant opportunity to earn a living in the US for 90% of the people that are mentally and/or physically able to do so. Unfortunately we have a very large population of those that could (menatally/physically) earn a living, but either don't want to work at all, or feel they are too good to work in construction, landscaping, etc.

The Dems love to play this game to the fullest, in order to win elections that they otherwise likely wouldn't win.

The Republicans, unfortunately are just about as bad, and have decided that they must try to play this game, although anyone with a brain knows that they can never beat the Dems at this.

Soon we will be at a point, where there are less people pulling the cart than are riding in it, at which point the system completely breaks apart.

Currently, a significant amount of people in the US go onto college, and therefore do not start actually earning a living until they are in their early to mid-20's. Most people feel it is their God-given right to retire at 65 (or earlier in the case of most government workers). So considering our life expectancy is in the low to mid-80's, that leaves barely half of ones life, where they are actually working and being productive.

That is the way this game is moving towards, where those that work will be paired across from those that don't, including retirees, young people and dead beats.

Historically people in their 60/70/80's voted Republican, but I feel that will change as the live for today-not-tomorrow Boomers enter this age group.