It's Official: Microsoft Vista Sucks. Just ask Microsoft Execs.

Quote from mgookin:

I tried buying a Dell system with no OS. They won't sell them that way. I now build my own; this way I know what I'm getting and I have control over it.
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Oh yes they do. You can't do it on the web however; the option for "No OS" doesn't exist... But if you call, Dell will not let you walk out of the showroom empty-handed because of an OS. They don't like to sell a system without OS, (they lose a little margin, plus the wholesale volume becomes skewed) but they do it all the time.

Osorico
 
Quote from osorico:

Oh yes they do. You can't do it on the web however; the option for "No OS" doesn't exist... But if you call, Dell will not let you walk out of the showroom empty-handed because of an OS. They don't like to sell a system without OS, (they lose a little margin, plus the wholesale volume becomes skewed) but they do it all the time.

Osorico
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Then they either changed their ways or I got a bad operator when i called. When I called (maybe 2+ years ago) and asked if I could by a pc with no OS they said no. I said have a nice day.
 
Quote from mgookin:

Then they either changed their ways or I got a bad operator when i called. When I called (maybe 2+ years ago) and asked if I could by a pc with no OS they said no. I said have a nice day.
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Doesn't matter anyway. Frankly, Dell only rates a "C" as far as PC hardware is concerned imo. As you said earlier, you build your own... you know precisely what you're getting! That is the way to go.

Osorico
 
Quote from CFerret:

Made a move to Ubuntu 8.04 some time ago and can say I've never been as satisfied with OS before!

It recognized ALL my hardware and peripherials I use (GSM mobile over Bluetooth, G3 mobile over USB cable, HP printer/scanner, photo camera etc) without even a need to install any drivers.

It runs Java apps (the #1 of them I need is IB TWS of course) and didn't have a single crash of them...

It runs all Windows apps I need with use of Wine (QuoteTracker for example).

It has much more fancy effects (love the Cube thing) than Vista and what's most surprising they don't slow down computer at all..

It has tons of software already pre-installed...

It is not vulnerable to viruses and spyware...

And it all is FREE... Not a cent (well, several for CD-R disk to burn an installation image :) )...

It definetely is a good value, especially for free product...

Of course I understand the fact that if you run into compatibility or similar such problems under Linux it would probably be harder to fix simply because there is no commercial support included with a product...

But once working it is extremely stable, secure and usable...
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Ferret, do you happen to know if Intuit software (Quicken, Turbotax, etc.) will now run seamlessly under Wine? I tried this two years ago, but at that time Wine would not run Intuits software satisfactorily.

By the way, the TOS Java trading platform runs great under Linux.
 
Quote from piezoe:

Ferret, do you happen to know if Intuit software (Quicken, Turbotax, etc.) will now run seamlessly under Wine? I tried this two years ago, but at that time Wine would not run Intuits software satisfactorily.

By the way, the TOS Java trading platform runs great under Linux.
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Unfortunatelly I don't know if those applications run under Wine.

Wine site (http://www.winehq.org/) contains AppDB which can be searched for applications to see if people successfully run them or not... Hope it helps.
 
Quote from CFerret:

Made a move to Ubuntu 8.04 some time ago and can say I've never been as satisfied with OS before!

It runs Java apps (the #1 of them I need is IB TWS of course) and didn't have a single crash of them...

It runs all Windows apps I need with use of Wine (QuoteTracker for example).
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So you are running TWS in Ubuntu and QuoteTracker through Wine?
How can QT possibly communicate with TWS as they are under a different OS?

Sounds a bit too good to be true. I tried Ubuntu 6/7 some time ago, it didn't work properly and looked rather ugly too.
 
Quote from jonbig04:

Pony up for the mac, no virus, no spyware, no crashing..to me those along are worth the extra couple hundred.
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This is a serious traders forum NOT a 16 year old's music school project.

:cool:
 
Quote from moo:

So you are running TWS in Ubuntu and QuoteTracker through Wine?
How can QT possibly communicate with TWS as they are under a different OS?
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Not a problem. The TWS API works thru a TCP connection.

Additionally Wine is not another OS, it is an implementation of the WIN32 API (ie a number of libraries) that runs on *nix operating systems.

If you don't like the Gnome desktop (standard with Ubuntu) you could try Kubuntu which is the release that uses the KDE desktop. KDE is possibly more like Windows than Gnome.
 
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