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[Specterx]

My opinion on global warming is that we sure better hope it's BS, because if it's not then we're totally screwed.

China and India won't stop burning coal, Brazil and Indonesia won't stop cutting down the rainforest, the African population won't stop growing, Americans won't stop driving pickups and living in suburban sprawl. Schemes to extract CO2 from the air, geo-engineered solar shades and suchlike are just pure fantasy.

 

[piezoe]

My opinion on global warming is that we sure better hope it's BS, because if it's not then we're totally screwed.

China and India won't stop burning coal, Brazil and Indonesia won't stop cutting down the rainforest, the African population won't stop growing, Americans won't stop driving pickups and living in suburban sprawl. Schemes to extract CO2 from the air, geo-engineered solar shades and suchlike are just pure fantasy.

There are other possibilities. If Shaviv is right, than climate change is exceedingly slow and we will all be long gone before there is drastic change. And if he, and Salby, and Miskolczi are correct than our efforts will have almost no effect no matter how much we cut our burning of fossil fuels. On the other hand, if they are wrong we should be looking at real estate in Antarctica or Greenland. One thing I'm pretty sure of, the summary reports of the IPCC should be taken cum grano salis. (see https://www.ipcc.ch/about/)

 

[userque]

Simple question:

If the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere continually increases over time, will the overall temperature of the atmosphere rise as well?

 

[ph1l]

Simple question:

If the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere continually increases over time, will the overall temperature of the atmosphere rise as well?

The answer is out there.

 

[userque]

The answer is out there.

Correct. It's not complicated. No one has to figure out 'climate change' to see where this story ends, and what path we'll take to get there.

This generation is truly unbelievable.

 

[userque]

Forgot to include this:

More: https://www.climate.gov/news-featur...ate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide

 

[userque]

CO2 is a greenhouse gas and, ceteris paribus, if CO2 rises the temperature will rise. There is no one -- no scientist -- that disagrees with this too simple proposition.

There it is.

Everyone is overcomplicating the matter. You seem to be saying that most of the debating is over how fast temperatures will rise, correct?

My point is that as CO2 levels increase, the temperature will increase. Agree?

 

[Specterx]

Correct. It's not complicated. No one has to figure out 'climate change' to see where this story ends, and what path we'll take to get there.

This generation is truly unbelievable.

Consider that, by definition, all the CO2 in fossil fuels was once present in the atmosphere - only being slowly removed by hundreds of millions of years of biological processes. When the dinosaurs lived, CO2 concentrations were more like 2000-4000ppm or 5x-10x today's level. Obviously, the earth was perfectly capable of sustaining life in those times.

All the same, humanity's environmental footprint is going to become "sustainable" one day. Up to us whether it happens in a controlled manner, or an uncontrolled one via resource exhaustion and civilizational collapse. Global-warming-induced natural disasters (to the extent they occur) will be just one problem among many.

 

[userque]

Consider that, by definition, all the CO2 in fossil fuels was once present in the atmosphere

Dealing with your very first point ... first:

What "definition?" And,

"all the CO2" wasn't present in the atmosphere at the same time. Agree?

 

[piezoe]

Forgot to include this:

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More: https://www.climate.gov/news-featur...ate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide

There has never been a question as to whether CO2 and Temperature are correlated. The only question is which is the dependent and which is the independent variable. (cf Henry's law)