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Whereas the lack of expansion of Medicaid will cost taxpayers in those states Odumbocare is costing everyone in that everyone is being FORCED to buy a product that is not what many want or need. I feel like a broken record but why would a 50 something person want maternity coverage? Pediatric dental? Pediatric vision? Mental health?
The only people making out are those with nice substantial subsidies. Further, the indigent get free healthcare from Medicaid. Ask WHY Odumbo wants to give subsidies to a family of 4 making over $90K/year. People making that much should not get a subsidy. You can blame Republicans but Democrats continue with the mindset of spend, spend, spend and free $$$$ for everyone that they hope to get votes from now, and in the future.
ideologically driven? that's how we ended up with this crazy law in the first place. It has nothing to do with healthcare, it is just based on how many votes it could get without violating too many ideologies. There should have never been any state exchanges, but that would violate an ideology. Medicaid should just simply be a federal program and have nothing to do with the states. Means tested Medicaid is just about the only thing everybody agrees on and violates nobody's ideology. The only way out is to honor the lie, "If you like it you can keep it." and expand Medicaid on the federal level. I'm already going to be paying the fine, at least that way I would get something for my money.Quote from piezoe:
Not only should you feel like a broken record, but you are a broken record. You have to buy maternity care for the exact same reason that someone without a prostate has to buy coverage for prostate disease.
I don't like to be impolite but my one bit of advice to you would be to grow up. Your behavior is paralleling that of the nursery school child who would rather break a toy than share it. Your reality is the same as mine. We both have to deal with the ACA. It is statutory law now. If we don't like it we have remedies available. We can seek, through our representatives in Government, to change the law, but at the moment there is zero chance -- let me repeat that in case it hasn't sunk in, ZERO! chance -- of your Odumbocare or my Obamney care being repealed. The earliest that could possibly happen is 2017. So find something constructive to do between now and then.
P.S. You would do yourself a favor by becoming familiar with the requirements that must be met in the various States to qualify for medicaid. Just being indigent does not automatically qualify you. That's what expansion was all about!, viz., bringing all those who are indigent but could NOT previously qualify, under the expanded medicaid tent. And this business of States opting out is aimed at wrecking Obamney care. It is a strategy move that cannot be justified on financial grounds as it is not saving the States that are opting out anything. This slash and burn strategy is one hundred percent ideologically driven. It's a disgrace.
Thank you for a constructive comment. That, indeed, is almost all we needed to do,i.e., learn from others. We were prevented from implementing directly a simple solution to our health care woes by the medical cartel via their corporate political influence. If we do things in the proper order, however, we will eventually be able to reform our healthcare. The reform will have to come in steps. We goofed by not repealing McCarran Ferguson as step one. So now we have the ACA in place as step one. This does not preclude us from taking the other necessary steps needed to break the power of the Cartel.Quote from DHOHHI:
I read The Healing of America by T.R. Reid .. NYT Bestseller.
It covers how healthcare works elsewhere ... France, Germany, Japan, UK, Canada ..... none are perfect but we could learn a lot IMO from some of these countries.
I remember years ago when 60 Minutes did a piece of US citizens going to places like India (I think) for certain surgeries in large part due to cost.
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Costs will drop by 50% or more and the quality of U.S. Medical care will improve.. All of the above steps are compatible with the ACA. So they can be accomplished with the ACA in place.
Quote from piezoe:
...Costs will drop by 50% or more and the quality of U.S. Medical care will improve.. All of the above steps are compatible with the ACA. So they can be accomplished with the ACA in place....
Quote from piezoe:
Not only should you feel like a broken record, but you are a broken record. You have to buy maternity care for the exact same reason that someone without a prostate has to buy coverage for prostate disease.
I don't like to be impolite but my one bit of advice to you would be to grow up. Your behavior is paralleling that of the nursery school child who would rather break a toy than share it. Your reality is the same as mine. We both have to deal with the ACA. It is statutory law now. If we don't like it we have remedies available. We can seek, through our representatives in Government, to change the law, but at the moment there is zero chance -- let me repeat that in case it hasn't sunk in, ZERO! chance -- of your Odumbocare or my Obamney care being repealed. The earliest that could possibly happen is 2017. So find something constructive to do between now and then.
P.S. You would do yourself a favor by becoming familiar with the requirements that must be met in the various States to qualify for medicaid. Just being indigent does not automatically qualify you. That's what expansion was all about!, viz., bringing all those who are indigent but could NOT previously qualify, under the expanded medicaid tent. And this business of States opting out is aimed at wrecking Obamney care. It is a strategy move that cannot be justified on financial grounds as it is not saving the States that are opting out anything. This slash and burn strategy is one hundred percent ideologically driven. It's a disgrace.
good, I am not that familiar with the requirements Could you explain to me what it means when Blue States on state exchanges are "expanding medicaid'? If it already helps the poor, why would it need to be expanded? If a man gets laid off and loses his coverage, and his unemployment insurance runs out, and he gets sick, does he qualify for Medicaid?Quote from DHOHHI:
As far as Medicaid ... I am VERY familiar with the requirements. So no lecture is needed from you. Virtually all the kids I volunteer with are on Medicaid.