It's hillbilly, intellectually vacant and morally repugnant

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Yellow Elephant Anthony Mantova, National Field Director of the Leadership Institute, says that it's "hillbilly, intellectually vacant and morally repugnant that those who call for war must serve."
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So by the same logic, no one can advocate against crime unless they're willing to become a policeman.

Only those who choose to teach can argue for better schools.

Unless you've umped or played you shouldn't boo at at a ball game.

Whatever.
 
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So by the same logic, no one can advocate against crime unless they're willing to become a policeman.

Only those who choose to teach can argue for better schools.

Unless you've umped or played you shouldn't boo at at a ball game.

Whatever.
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Not by the same logic, unless you're logically challenged.

I'm certain that if necessary, most of us would be willing to become a policeman, or a teacher. For the most part in this country, we do not have a shortage of either.

We do have a shortage of military recruits today, due to an unnessecary war. So one is morally obligated to be willing to serve in that war if one advocates for it.

BTW, you shouldn't boo at a ball game, either.
 
You're the one who's challenged. No where in the newspaper article you linked is there evidence nor even an allegation concerning a "shortage" of military recruits. In fact around 1,500,000 Americans serve in the Armed Forces.

Even if recruiting numbers were down, you offer no proof that an "unnecessary war" is to blame.

Lastly, by use of your logic those who support the Ally effort in Afghanistan yet fail to enlist are skirting a "moral obligation."

BTW: There's an acute shortage of police recruits throughout the United States.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0123/p03s02-ussc.html


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Not by the same logic, unless you're logically challenged.

I'm certain that if necessary, most of us would be willing to become a policeman, or a teacher. For the most part in this country, we do not have a shortage of either.

We do have a shortage of military recruits today, due to an unnessecary war. So one is morally obligated to be willing to serve in that war if one advocates for it.

BTW, you shouldn't boo at a ball game, either.
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Standards have been lowered; recruiters are cheating. It's getting bad. Come down out of la la land, Pabst.

Here's a book for you to check out: "Fiasco".

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You're the one who's challenged. No where in the newspaper article you linked is there evidence nor even an allegation concerning a "shortage" of military recruits. In fact around 1,500,000 Americans serve in the Armed Forces.

Even if recruiting numbers were down, you offer no proof that an "unnecessary war" is to blame.

Lastly, by use of your logic those who support the Ally effort in Afghanistan yet fail to enlist are skirting a "moral obligation."

BTW: There's an acute shortage of police recruits throughout the United States.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0123/p03s02-ussc.html
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So by the same logic, no one can advocate against crime unless they're willing to become a policeman.
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the better analogy might be: those that scream and shout that somebody else's child should be a policeman should themselves be willing to be policemen.

and better still if the assignment for the policemen was to risk dismemberment and years of sacrifice to protect the interests of corporate executives.
 
Pabst is currently posting, as "voice of reason," on a long comment thread on Operation Yellow Elephant right now.

Our blog follows military recruiting exclusively. Our nation is currently experiencing difficulties in this area. If you think we're wrong, we're quite willing to debate and discuss this.

But there's no point in going further to our principal premise: given ongoing recruiting difficulties, those eligible to serve who support the war have an obligation at least to consider volunteering for military service.
 
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