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justrading said:
@Baron

Might as well weigh in, you can't know what you don't read/hear.

After a looong week, I finally had time to look around a couple of threads, and I must say I like what I saw. Perhaps it's because 1) my expectations are modest, and 2) I force myself to keep an open mind, to which end you can see how many I've put on ignore in all my time here.

I'm here for sharing and discussion, the social part of social media. If I want to interact only with those who agree with me, I'll talk to myself.

Discussion means people will disagree. People should learn to accept that, rather than get their knickers in a twist. This never ending stuff about people not wanting to deal with disagreement or vigorous discussion is getting old. If they want to live in a world where women faint and men go "'Pon my soul" every time there is disagreement, they can go to BMT. ET is real world stuff, and BS gets called out pretty fast. No need to apologise for it, it's a plus.

I would like to make a suggestion as a way to resolve the great debate we are having. Rather than consider revolting stuff like self-moderated threads, or new forum rules, new moderation standards, would you like to consider a new forum, or sub-forum?

The most contentious ground seems to be pro/anti TA. Either as another sub-forum alongside TA, or as a completely separate forum, how about something like Technically Speaking, with a different set of rules?

Technically Speaking could encompass TA, Systems, Programming, anything technical.

We have different rules for P&R, so same thing here. In this forum, discussion is to be purely on the technicalities of the subject of the thread. There is to be no discussion about whether it is good or bad, works or not.

So as an example, I come across CCI and I want general discussion, I'll post it in Technical Analysis. Along with those who can tell me good stuff, Surf will come along and tell me CCI stands for Complete Crap Involved, or something like that. Then the PA crowd will come by and tell me all indicators are lagging. Fine, I'm getting a 360 view.

Now if for example I've been playing around with various settings on MACD, and I want to discuss that and have no interest in anyone telling me Price Action is superior, or TA is a waste of time, I post it in Technically Speaking. Rules there forbid not just Surf, but the PA is superior crowd coming in and laying waste to MACD. You either discuss MACD settings or stay away.

Just commonly agreed boundaries. Yes, I know there are people who bitch and moan about P&R so it's bound to happen here, just tell them to piss off.
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These are good ideas. The issue on elite is that all vendors understand that this is a fertile market full of folks with cash to burn. (Heck, i made close to $5000 selling an old video tape). Therefore, it attracts vendors of all levels. Many of these cant afford to pay the rightfully high advertising rates so they become stealth vendors. Some being smart enough to build a great reputation before slipping up and letting everyone know they sell a $5 ebook or whatever.

Believe it or not, my estimate is this is 15% or more of the active et user base. These people get very angry when they are exposed since their cash cow has been threatened. One stealth vendor even tried to sue me for exposing him. We shut that fella down immediately.

This is the sad but true case. The most angry and vicious posters are likely failed stealth vendors. surf
 
After a month or so away, I realize that I handled this situation the wrong way. I meant every word I said about there being some extreme annoyances on this site, however, my objective here is to communicate with other traders and not to worry about destructive individuals...numerous as they may be. In hindsight, I now see that leaving here isn't the solution, especially when I take into consideration that I got a lot from this site.

And to Baron, you're wrong in that I view ET as a classroom as some sort. I have my trading method and it's proven highly accurate, therefore I don't need anyone here to teach me anything as far as technique and analysis. What I meant by learning is that pragmatic experience and this place seems to have become overwhelmingly negative over the past year or so.

For the naysayers and shit talkers, I'm actually gonna start a journal in the beginning of 2016 or maybe sooner to prove my point.
 
Money Trust said:
After a month or so away, I realize that I handled this situation the wrong way. I meant every word I said about there being some extreme annoyances on this site, however, my objective here is to communicate with other traders and not to worry about destructive individuals...numerous as they may be. In hindsight, I now see that leaving here isn't the solution, especially when I take into consideration that I got a lot from this site.

And to Baron, you're wrong in that I view ET as a classroom as some sort. I have my trading method and it's proven highly accurate, therefore I don't need anyone here to teach me anything as far as technique and analysis. What I meant by learning is that pragmatic experience and this place seems to have become overwhelmingly negative over the past year or so.

For the naysayers and shit talkers, I'm actually gonna start a journal in the beginning of 2016 or maybe sooner to prove my point.
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YOu ever scroll back through the journal forum? You and 100,000 others started a thread where you were going to make millions only to stop posting and hope that no one ever mentions the thread again.

Look, don't sweat it and go trade your ass off until you make a fortune or until you are sleeping in the alley behind a liqour store (I got the cubby hole behind the fence with the cardboard bed, so don't even think about sleeping there or I'll cut your ass).

It ain't negative here, it's just realistic.
 
Money Trust said:
After a month or so away, I realize that I handled this situation the wrong way. I meant every word I said about there being some extreme annoyances on this site, however, my objective here is to communicate with other traders and not to worry about destructive individuals...numerous as they may be. In hindsight, I now see that leaving here isn't the solution, especially when I take into consideration that I got a lot from this site.

And to Baron, you're wrong in that I view ET as a classroom as some sort. I have my trading method and it's proven highly accurate, therefore I don't need anyone here to teach me anything as far as technique and analysis. What I meant by learning is that pragmatic experience and this place seems to have become overwhelmingly negative over the past year or so.

For the naysayers and shit talkers, I'm actually gonna start a journal in the beginning of 2016 or maybe sooner to prove my point.
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You got 135 likes and I only got 11? Where the fook is the justice? If Lenin was here he would give me half of your likes.

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hughb said:
YOu ever scroll back through the journal forum? You and 100,000 others started a thread where you were going to make millions only to stop posting and hope that no one ever mentions the thread again.

Look, don't sweat it and go trade your ass off until you make a fortune or until you are sleeping in the alley behind a liqour store (I got the cubby hole behind the fence with the cardboard bed, so don't even think about sleeping there or I'll cut your ass).

It ain't negative here, it's just realistic.
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Actually, I made a thread after my journal thread explaining what went wrong. I had no problem making correct calls, my problem was that I didn't see the trades all the way through as I planned.

http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/letting-your-winners-run.288958/
 
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