I disagree with that. It's not desire that leads to suffering. It's obsession that leads to suffering. Simply desiring something does not make you suffer even when you can't get it. It's obsessing it unreasonably and uncontrollably sacrificing everything that's important in your life, your health, your family, your love, your dignity, your morality, your integrity, your value, your conscience just to get something that makes you suffer.
It’s a Miserable Life – Trading and Depression
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I disagree with that. It's not desire that leads to suffering. It's obsession that leads to suffering. Simply desiring something does not make you suffer even when you can't get it. It's obsessing it unreasonably and uncontrollably sacrificing everything that's important in your life, your health, your family, your love, your dignity, your morality, your integrity, your value, your conscience just to get something that makes you suffer.
I always thought it was hate that leads to suffering. I suppose the idea of losing all those things you listed counts, but don't they all equal fear of losing those bits, which leads to hating your circumstances, so isn't Yoda spot on?
Obsession over something incessably and not being able to get it can lead to hate. And I wrote "sacrificing" not "losing" those things that are important to you. There is a difference.
You did not understand my meaning with the Yoda vid. You were turning this depression thread into an even deeper depressive state, and I tried to bring levity to it with some Star Wars fun.
Since you failed to recognize this, you get a fish slap.
I struggled with depression in my mid teens to mid 20s. Also happens to be a time I was experimenting with a number of drugs, but I think they emphasized rather than caused the depression. Anyway, by some miracle (I'm not religious) I woke up one day and -not sure if it was before or after breakfast- as my mind was ready to plunge into darkness, something strange happened. I wasn't able to wallow, like my mind had laid a concrete screed over all my triggers. It took me a couple of weeks to absorb the change, and months to embrace my new reality. But I became far more productive and appreciative of the things I have, mostly immaterial.
That was your instinct to survive that kicked in.
It was not instigated by you. It was your whole entity that kicked your mind into "WTF are you thinking". I went through a stage like that myself. You felt a "spiritual awakening". That is because your subconscious suddenly felt the fear of the fact of your limited existence. Oh yeah, your body-entity knows it all too well, thus fight-flight and all that jazz.
It's you who didn't understand Star Wars. It wasn't fear that drove Anakin to hate and then lead to suffering. It was Anakin's obsession over death that led him to suffering.
Explains why you know so much about lithium pills, with all due respect to your depression.
You are driving this thread even deeper into depression by not understanding the fish slapping dance.
K, one more try to bring you out of these depressive doldrums...
I think that's the nature of this line of work (day trading or swing trading). one would have to deal with the bad sides of it. Every job has good sides, bad sides, ... unfortunately, one would have to deal with the emotion and psychological aspects of day trading. They're not tangible things one can't deal with them physically like the guy who holds the stop sign at a construction site in 100-degree weather ... it's physical thing one can deal with it. I think one way to minimize the effect of day trading on one's emotion and psychological well-being is to manage one's greed, set target gain at an acceptable level, or cut loss (it depends on the type of stocks that he or she trades), pick one's poison to trade or else one would need to live the bad sides of day trading.
why didn't you make a deal with Phil? (you could have swapped your position and his position once in a while).
how did floor traders make money then? I guess piggyback on big order flows?
nowadays everything is traded electronically, so I guess floor traders have no edge?
why didn't you make a deal with Phil? (you could have swapped your position and his position once in a while).
how did floor traders make money then? I guess piggyback on big order flows?
nowadays everything is traded electronically, so I guess floor traders have no edge?