Iterative Refinement

[romanus]

Quote from ljyoung:

... I see what you are saying, using your dialect, but I don't know what having the P2 'outside' means.

Outside of previous traverse's RTL.

Quote from ljyoung:


I understand that a fftraverse can be part of a standard traverse but my point was that for the same collection of bars, you and ehorn had drawn a fftraverse, while guava, gooch and gregor had drawn a standard traverse and I was asking if you could explain why you thought the way you did.

I can't, not that I don't want to, but I simply draw the tapes, trendlines and gaussians when they make sense and the shit starts lining up in a matter where the gaussians pinpoint the completion of sequences on all fractals and turning points. Unfortunately, I don't have any theories about the elements which are not present in ff traverse, other then that they are not the same fractal. Spydertrader is the one who dreamed up the intra-fractal/faster-fractal vocabulary words

 

[ljyoung]

Quote from romanus:

1. Outside of previous traverse's RTL.

2. I can't, not that I don't want to, but I simply draw the tapes, trendlines and gaussians when they make sense and the shit starts lining up in a matter where the gaussians pinpoint the completion of sequences on all fractals and turning points. Unfortunately, I don't have any theories about the elements which are not present in ff traverse, other than that they are not the same fractal. Spydertrader is the one who dreamed up the intra-fractal/faster-fractal vocabulary words

1. Yah. That is where any legitimate P2 MUST be.

2. I said some time ago that I thought Gaussians were confirmatory and not predictive. You seem to be saying that Gaussians can point to the actual bar at which change occurs as opposed to being a case of following the falling dominos, e.g., the b2b for a standard traverse must first start with a tape b2b and then a fftraverse b2b, if there is a fftraverse, and finally the b2b for the traverse. Sometimes thay can all happen together but not always. Am I hearing you correctly?

lj

 

[nkhoi]

..the b2b for a standard traverse must first start with a tape b2b and then a fftraverse r2r, if there is a fftraverse, and finally the b2b for the traverse...always.

 

[ljyoung]

Quote from nkhoi:

..the b2b for a standard traverse must first start with a tape b2b and then a fftraverse r2r, if there is a fftraverse, and finally the b2b for the traverse...always.

Thanks nkhoi. That was very helpful. There's an example of what you just said on Spyder's chart of 2-3-09.

lj

 

[romanus]

Quote from ljyoung:

You seem to be saying that Gaussians can point to the actual bar at which change occurs as opposed to being a case of following the falling dominos

To me they seem to be pointing to where the change will result in a new sequence in an opposite direction on the same fractal, e.g. change at 1125 is different from the change at 1205.

 

[ljyoung]

Quote from ljyoung:

ES 5 min showing a completed standard downtraverse (fuchsia), a completed standard uptraverse (blue) with fanned RTL, a downchannel P3 at 15:00 and a down fftraverse to end the day.

So the PFC says we should look to complete the downtraverse and the downchannel, whenever, and then start a new uptraverse and upchannel.

lj

My 'traverse B2B' is incorrect. Doh. It is the tape B2B which comes before the traverse B2B which occurs a few bars upstream at 12:25 (add 3 hours to my chart times). I think the blue RTL should be fanned so I'm leaving the R2R as is for now.

lj

 

[ljyoung]

Quote from romanus:

To me they seem to be pointing to where the change will result in a new sequence in an opposite direction on the same fractal, e.g. change at 1125 is different from the change at 1205.

I think that's a good point.

lj

 

[romanus]

Quote from ljyoung:

1. Yah. That is where any legitimate P2 MUST be.

On the same fractal. However, 'illegitimate' P2's exist as well, but on a faster fractal.

 

[fahad121]

Tuesday's chart.

 

[Gregor_S]

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