Iterative Refinement

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...It is important to know how to go through the process of differentiation (first starting with one view, and when running into difficulty attempting to review with an alternate view) in order to learn how to locate the answers you seek.

If I followed this thought process correctly, then the fact that to establish Point 2 the market broke the green RTL but not the grey dashed tells me which RTL is valid and which one is not.

Which takes me back to the morning. It was a channel after all - a red down channel consisting of chubby tape (1st dominant traverse) followed by Lateral Traverse and another dominant traverse (pink) and change at 1105.

Did I follow the "process of differentiation (first starting with one view, and when running into difficulty attempting to review with an alternate view)" correctly?
 

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The entire period 13:20 - 15:15 represents a channel having dominant, non-dominant and dominant (again) traverses within it. Anyone who did not 'see' things that way on Friday, or who still doesn't 'see' things that way now, might want to review that area in the future. :)

(All times Eastern and [close of] ES Bars)

- Spydertrader

Hi Spyder, I'm still trying to come to grips with laterals and understand their different roles. I'm also trying to fully appreciate the difference between 5-minute level traverses and 'faster fractal traverses'. Can you offer any advice on the formation and dissolution of lateral formations and lateral movement?

Also, is this how the 13:20-15:15 period should have looked? (I had originally annotated this region as a steep traverse within a shallower one)

Many thanks,
Neo

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It is important to know how to go through the process of differentiation...

...At first, this process will happen during debrief. As time passes, and your experience in the process grows, the process (and answers) will come within a few bars after making an annotation error. Later, you'll recognize when it appears you sit at a fork in the road (two possible views to annotate) until finally, you will recognize the correct path as signaled by the market.

It all really does begin with M.

- Spydertrader

This was a really illuminating post. Thanks, Spyder.

I imagine this would explain why observations, thoughts and feelings aren't always in sync, and sometimes, what may on the face of it seem to be the logical and correct method of annotation can't be reconciled with the nagging (but un-specifiable) feeling that something's not quite right.
 
Ehorn/bi9foot,

Could you please tell me how the market gave you a TELL to annotate a lateral traverse here?

Thanks,
Neo

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