Iterative Refinement

[phineas j. w.]

Quote from romanus:

I only stated what I saw on that pic.
However, I never claimed to understand fully the "Sesame Street" post, if that's what you're referring to with respect to tape vs traverse level change.

Romanus,
Not sure about the "Sesame Street" post, I was referring to this spydertrader post:
Phineas,

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Spydertrader 07-24-08 08:29 PM

... However, Decreased Volatility with Increased Volume only requires two bars to create its signal. Since we create 'tapes' out of two adjacent bars, this signal for change occurs on the 'tape' level. The other three require three bars and as such form on a Traverse level or higher.

- Spydertrader

 

[dkm]

today's ES

 

[jbarnby]

It appeared to me that most instances of increasing volume resulted from price reacting to formations. Therefore, this is my view of the ES 5 min fractal.

 

[TIKITRADER]

ES U8 Daily Chart September 11 2008

I will switch over the contracts to Z by tomorrow.
I just need to annotate a new daily.
Posting this tonight with volume hand drawn, to combined contract volume level.

 

[Jander]

Quote from romanus:

I don't understand. Are you saying 15:20 [close of] is pt2? Or that one does not have permission to seek change at that point in time?

Disregard that post.... Tums does not know the answer, nor does he attempt to provide answers or help. He actually only offers the opposite of help. His first step is to search for posts that contain similar words, then quotes them, then tries to make you look like an idiot. Surely you have noticed the routine by now...

Unfortunately, unless Spyder is around to offer guidance, there is little use in posting questions.

 

[Tums]

Quote from Jander:
Disregard that post.... Tums does not know the answer, nor does he attempt to provide answers or help. He actually only offers the opposite of help. His first step is to search for posts that contain similar words, then quotes them, then tries to make you look like an idiot. Surely you have noticed the routine by now...
Unfortunately, unless Spyder is around to offer guidance, there is little use in posting questions.

If you do not see the answer I provided to you in Spyder's quote, I guess the best way for you to do is to post your chart with your questions, so that everybody can understand why you are stuck.

 

[ticktrade]

Quote from Jander:

Disregard that post.... Tums does not know the answer, nor does he attempt to provide answers or help. He actually only offers the opposite of help. His first step is to search for posts that contain similar words, then quotes them, then tries to make you look like an idiot. Surely you have noticed the routine by now...

Unfortunately, unless Spyder is around to offer guidance, there is little use in posting questions.

Dude, take it easy on Tums, he does offer links in which one can find answers.
The 1205 bar was a mystery on the 5min es fractal to me also. FWIW I have been sequencing on the 10 min also and had a signal for change there.
As I stated last night I find very few signals of change that follow a higher gaussian peak. While not a desirable sequence of events the 1235 bar provided a fanned out pt3 on a lower gausian peak followed by and IBGS confiming a down sequence which ended at 1325 on jokari following a lower red gaussian peak.
If one were using the ym the 1208-1210 bars had back to back irv out of the pennant. They did not clear the lateral but that should have at least made one think twice about holding long there.

 

[Jander]

Quote from Tums:

If you do not see the answer I provided to you in Spyder's quote, I guess the best way for you to do is to post your chart with your questions, so that everybody can understand why you are stuck.

Nice try.. However, you did not provide an answer.

I'm not sure why you are trying to make it out like I'm the only one that is not getting it. I havent seen anyone that can explain the 15:20 bar, maybe you have missed all the posts and questions about it the past 2 days??

 

[Jander]

Quote from ticktrade:


The 1205 bar was a mystery on the 5min es fractal to me also.

Sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. We are discussing the 15:20 bar

I dont know why you are placing emphasis on 10 min chart, gaussian peak heights, etc... We have dumbed this down to just 5 min ES for a reason, to simplify and understand sequencing, which obviously hasnt worked out too well...

 

[Tums]

Quote from Jander:
Nice try.. However, you did not provide an answer.
I'm not sure why you are trying to make it out like I'm the only one that is not getting it. I havent seen anyone that can explain the 15:20 bar, maybe you have missed all the posts and questions about it the past 2 days??

Maybe you think my note to struggling practitioners was referring to you, and mistaken it as my effort to single you out to be a fool?

I am sure a snippet of your chart, setting along side Spyder's quote, will dispel all confusions you endear to.