Iterative Refinement

Here are the pace levels for the ES calculated using Vorzo's spreadsheet as of today.

I have my levels set to the following based on the attached table

VDU: 7531
DU: 12,858
SLOW: 18,142
MEDIUM: 25,787
FAST: 31,930
EXTREME: 41,149
 

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Quote from romanus:


The fact that there does not seem to appear any clear change signal around 15:20 [close of] suggest that some of the annotations may not be correct.

Yes, this is a bit confusing. 15:20 is clear as day an FTT of the large up channel. Atleast what we would use to call an ftt before we found out that it must fit the profile of the 3 cases. It is also a double top at a major resistance area, but that is neither here nor there :D
 
Quote from Jander:

Does anyone know why the 14:05-14:20 sequence is not a peak volume change signal today?


IMHO that move was a pt1 to pt2 move so we could not look for change yet, pt3 came at 1435. It was the first move to really clear the midday sideways move and it had an increasing gaussian peak which tells me to expect a pt3 to follow before looking for change.
I thought 1440 was change and started working a down sequence thinking pt2 came at 1500 with a bounce off the 20 ma. The 1520 bar did cause some worry when it took out the high of the 1440 bar. The ym and nq made lower highs so I felt ok with the mada at the time just had to move pt1 .
The same thing happened at the 1130 bar, sequence complete on a lower gaussian peak, look for change, ym was diverging and signaled change early in the 1132 bar, the next ES bar was an impressive outside bar to start the up move.
 
Quote from Jander:

Yes, this is a bit confusing. 15:20 is clear as day an FTT of the large up channel. Atleast what we would use to call an ftt before we found out that it must fit the profile of the 3 cases. It is also a double top at a major resistance area, but that is neither here nor there :D
The closes thing I can think of is the blue FTT here:
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2038716

Spydertrader's comment here:
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2038729#post2038729

"The anotations (Lateral Movement) you 'see' now did not make their way onto the chart until later" - I have not figured that one out yet.
 
Quote from romanus:

Think about it. If this was pt3 then retrace and trendline BO would have become reversal and pt3 up.
We do have retrace and trendline BO, but no reversal and pt3 up.
But in our reality pt3 is always completed unlike in icarus618's reality.
What is the only possible logical conclusion. It is NOT a pt3!

I confess that I hadn't considered the possibility that Spyder was annotating pt3's that are not valid.
 
Quote from Jander:
Yes, this is a bit confusing. 15:20 is clear as day an FTT of the large up channel. Atleast what we would use to call an ftt before we found out that it must fit the profile of the 3 cases. It is also a double top at a major resistance area, but that is neither here nor there :D

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...32&highlight=peak+volume+sequence#post2017732

Quote from Spydertrader:

...The market breaks out of this lateral allowing the trader to see two examples of Peak Volume. However, as guavaman suggested, the sequences of Point One to Point Two to Point Three had not yet completed for the answer to our question, "What must come next?"...




note to the struggling practitioners... until you became proficient in the M, if you don't diligently annotate 1,2,3 on your charts, there is no way in hell you are going to see the sequence unfold before your eyes in real time.
 
Quote from bi9foot:

Here are the pace levels for the ES calculated using Vorzo's spreadsheet as of today.

I have my levels set to the following based on the attached table

VDU: 7531
DU: 12,858
SLOW: 18,142
MEDIUM: 25,787
FAST: 31,930
EXTREME: 41,149

Thanks!
 
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