Iterative Refinement

Quote from Spydertrader:

This isn't even close.

The sequences required to complete either a channel or a Traverse had yet to reach completion. As such, no permission to seek a mode change existed.

Obviously, you do think they reached completion.

In other words, you must have annotated your chart incorrectly.

Here's a hint.

What everyone considers a channel for today, really shows a super channel.

Three Traverses in the morning (all lateral)
Three Traverses Midday (Up, lateral, Up)
Three Traverses in the Afternoon (Down, Lateral, Down)

And another Lateral to end the day.

- Spydertrader

Thank you for your answer.

I re-annotated some stuff.
Is this how things should be seen?

regards,
Ivo
 

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Quote from gravitonium77:

I almost feel like some here think I'm posting something so simple that I must be doing this out of spite or something. I assure you all it is not. EIther those gray lines are a traverse or they are not. Mr Black, Callmate, Tums? Can not one of you state with certainty if it's a traverse or not?

Perhaps, those who have followed the thread recall how, quite recently, you responded when someone attempted to provide you assistance, and they, don't wish to to receive a similar show of appreciation from you, now.

Just a guess, mind you.

- Spydertrader
 
Quote from ivob:


It this how things should be seen?

Close. While the small details won't throw you off, one big one might. Start with that red bar under the Red Point Three. See if you can draw a Lateral from there. Also, check to see if you have a Lateral or two back where you believed you had a Point Three. If so, it might be significant.

- Spydertrader
 
Quote from Spydertrader:

Perhaps, those who have followed the thread recall how, quite recently, you responded when someone attempted to provide you assistance, and they, don't wish to to receive a similar show of appreciation from you, now.

Just a guess, mind you.

- Spydertrader

Let's see. The vast majority of those working on this don't get even the most basic understanding straight. Some, even after many years. Those that do either haven't completed the route you say is neceesary OR those that do clearly don't understand much of the basics. A review of Mr Blacks or Callmates posts make this clear.

I get accused of "blaming" you for pointing out something regarding peak volume. You claim you did give a complete definition. YOU DID NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! To this day, in no one location (in a sentence or a paragraph) has "peak volume" EVER been unequivocally defined. I just dropped it hoping to let by gones be by gones. Apparently you are choosing something else.

Finally, you give a "quiz", asking why a certain bar 6 is NOT a signal for change. Your own words, after no real answer was ever provided, were, "the important part of the response is that it wasn't a signal for change".

So, you told us the reason it wasn't a signal for change is because it wasn't a signal for change.

You're funny, especially for a fellow who so hangs his hat on logic.
 
Quote from Spydertrader:

Close. While the small details won't throw you off, one big one might. Start with that red bar under the Red Point Three. See if you can draw a Lateral from there. Also, check to see if you have a Lateral or two back where you believed you had a Point Three. If so, it might be significant.

- Spydertrader

Several laterals can be drawn (attached) but at this moment I don't see a differrence.

Considering your answer I think that my black point 3 is not a point 3. However, the break of it (on incr red volume) currently is the only way to explain why the sequence was not completed when we saw incr black at 14:50.

It's very late though, will look again tomorrow.

regards,
Ivo
 

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Further more,

while it's cute to make the suggestion that it's my own fault that no responses are given, I wonder how much damage you do to others in the process.

I'm not the only one who can't answer this traverse question. Virtually no one here can. Go ahead, fool yourself into thinking you've "transfered" or whatever you wish to call it.

nkhoi thought what was a tape was a traverse. LOL. How many people here REALLY get this. DKM is about ready to burst a gasket over trying his best to figure this all out. His emotion is clear in his posts. This whole thing would be laughable if it wasn't so hurting people.
 
Quote from gravitonium77:

This whole thing would be laughable if it wasn't so hurting people.

You have within yourself the power to stop the hurting. All you require now is the will. :p
 
Quote from ivob:

Several laterals can be drawn (attached) but at this moment I don't see a differrence.

Black Point Three isn't because the Point Three channel completed at 13:45 [close of] ES bar. Try a Lateral at 13:40 ES [close of] Bar.

- Spydertrader
 
Quote from gravitonium77:

You claim you did give a complete definition. YOU DID NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet, oddly enough, some who follow this thread have automated Peak Volume on their charts based on the same defintition you repeatedly insist I did not provide. The only thing I did not do was differentiate Peak Volume from Pace Acceleration. I left that to romanus, and anyone else with an interest.

- Spydertrader
 
Gravitonium - I realize that I'm nobody in this place, but I can't help responding. I'm sure your frustration is understood and shared by many, but your anger is completely misdirected.

You are here, by your choice, hoping to get something valuable. Spydertrader is here, by his choice, TRYING HIS BEST TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING VALUABLE. (excuse the caps)

I hope you find a way to make the most of this opportunity for youself. The outcome is uncertain for many of us. Let's just do our best to have a pleasant journey.

Sincerely
 
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