Iterative Refinement

Quote from gravitonium77:

EDIT: early day gaussians missing due to my total inability to figure them out, odd looking early day to me.

I do not advise jumping to the 'Action Step' before one has completed the 'Monitoring' Phase - which includes having the ability to thoroughly annotate a chart.

Quote from Jesus_Freak:

I have had a bad day all around.

Sorry to hear about your change in employment status. Time now to focus on the big picture. Do not attempt to trade while your mind focuses elsewhere. The markets will be ready and waiting while you sort out future plans.

Quote from treeline:

ES

Nice idea to place News Reminders right on your chart.

Quote from tobbe:

ES for today. :)

Nice work.

Quote from The Flaw:

ESM8

You might consdier double checking your up channels for accuracy.

- Spydertrader
 
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ANW BEXP BIDZ BMTI CALM CAVM CRY CSIQ CSR CXO CZZ DDS DLB EBS FSYS FTEK GIGM GSOL LAZ LDK LULU LXU MEA MELI NTRI OME OPTM PERY PNSN PWRD RICK RVBD SCOR SDXC SNCR SOLF STAR STEC STV SWS TBSI TESO TLEO TSL ULTR VDSI WX YTEC ZOLT ZUMZ
 
Quote from Spydertrader:

I do not advise jumping to the 'Action Step' before one has completed the 'Monitoring' Phase - which includes having the ability to thoroughly annotate a chart.

- Spydertrader

I value your guidance immensely. I would not attempt to take action in areas that I do not understand.

Frankly, I did not post further questions because of the answers others have recieved for asking the type questions in areas that cause me difficulty.

I'm at a loss as to how to proceed. Are you suggesting that, Callmate's (for example) journey is not a viable one? I respect what she has accomplished immensely, so this is to be taken in the light of that respect; upon reviewing her charts, they often appear to be incomplete to me and the gaussians didn't come close to matching the channels. I say this absolutely in no way to diminish her or you, I sight it as someone whose journey seems to have worked well in spite of not being perfect. Afterall, perfection is an illusion and you have stated that there are many correct ways to annotate.

Did I misunderstand you?:confused:
 
Quote from gravitonium77:

Did I misunderstand you?:confused:

Currently, Gaussians provide an area which you find challanging. I encourage you to overcome this obstacle before focusing on SIM Trading. In addition to this one aspect of Monitoring, portions of Analysis and Decision making may provide other areas where you need to improve your skills. One must develop a rock solid foundation in these areas before attempting to tackle the Action portion of the process.

In callmate's case, she spent hours and hours doing drills on charts, giving up weekends and time with her family in order to achieve her level of success. So you see, callmate's success did not come from skipping ahead. Callmate now enjoys consistant profits due to the work she put into the learning process.

A trader must always know where they stand with respect to the right side of the market. Without a complete and thorough understanding of the fundamentals this basic tenent cannot be achieved.

- Spydertrader
 
Got short LULU today at the 2:30 bar when PRV showed increased red and a BO of the blue channel. Doing good so far. Daily shows a pennant on increased volume. I see this as a point 3 forming from a Pt 1(5/20) and Pt 2(5/28) channel on my daily.

Comments welcome.
 

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Quote from ticktrade:

Start with the 1030 bar(eob time) obvious pt1-2 move happening, IVDV(inc. vol. dec. volatility), anticipate change and most likely pt2.
Thank you for responding, ticktrade!
Quote from ticktrade:

1035 DRV,expected
1040 pennant
1045 outside bar IRV, should be short, need IRV to confirm
1050 get IRV
1055 more IRV :)
1100 DRV anticipate change and pt2 to have formed
1105 DBV , looking for p3 now(classic gaus pattern)
1110 DT, IRV, another spot to enter short, pt3
1115 IVDV anticipate change and another pt2 made
and the process repeats...
that's exactly how I saw the sequence, except I missed the outside bar signal due to the fact that I was narrowly focused on whether or not it was going to BO formation that I forgot to take off my "horce's blinds". IRV on 1050 due to formation BO is one of the cases where increasing non dominant can be found during pt2 to pt3 traverse, so I was continuing to wait for pt3 up.

Quote from ticktrade:

...one could have been watching for a point 3 up through most of this sequence, but that's not what came next.
Everything seems to be in proper context once the carryover channel pointed out by Spydertrader is considered.( what was thought of as pt1 to pt2 move was a traverse in CO channel that ended with an FTT, followed by an appropriate sequence ) It was :D successfully hiding from me in plain sight waiting to teach me a lesson:
Quote from Spydertrader:

While I often start the day with 'carryover' chanels (either with both points one and three on the previous day or only one of the two points faling on the previous day), my goal is to locate a Point Three Channel on the current day - in order to understand the current context.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1894285&highlight=carryover#post1894285
 
Quote from Spydertrader:

Currently, Gaussians provide an area which you find challanging. I encourage you to overcome this obstacle before focusing on SIM Trading. In addition to this one aspect of Monitoring, portions of Analysis and Decision making may provide other areas where you need to improve your skills. One must develop a rock solid foundation in these areas before attempting to tackle the Action portion of the process.

In callmate's case, she spent hours and hours doing drills on charts, giving up weekends and time with her family in order to achieve her level of success. So you see, callmate's success did not come from skipping ahead. Callmate now enjoys consistant profits due to the work she put into the learning process.

A trader must always know where they stand with respect to the right side of the market. Without a complete and thorough understanding of the fundamentals this basic tenent cannot be achieved.

- Spydertrader

Thank you very much. I will cease simming and just monitor. Are there any specific drills to which you refer? I would gladly invest my time in doing this. I do believe practice makes perfect, in my case I've become somewhat frustrated from a sense that what I've read in the journals don't always match my experience (context being the answer I suspect, but not knowing how to even tell what that means sometimes.

Any guidance toward specific drills will be followed to the letter.
 
I will have a daily chart posted as soon as I can connect to data feed. Having some problems tonight with connection.

Daily bar did make a LL and a LH on increasing volume. Point 3 down confirmed today.
 
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