Iterative Refinement

Quote from maxpi:

If you are referring to my mention of 6x range, it was mentioned by somebody else on another thread and I have no idea if anybody can do that. I have a theroretical 1.5 to 2.0 going but with mistakes and all it's running about half range today... practice, practice, practice 'ya know...

Range multiples measured in profits can result when one trades off finer level tools - resulting in up to 40 trades per day or more. However, one should never make this level of trading the goal when first starting out. By taking one step at a time, one works first to become profitable - with very few trades taken. Once consistantly profitiable, one now has a psychological barrier in place, past which, one can never return. A 'trading plateau' now exists, and as a result, a trader has built a rock solid psychological foundation. The trader has crossed the point of now return, and can never again go back to inconsistancy. This is the first goal of learning to trade.

Remember, SCT isn't a goal, SCT is a consequence of the learning process. The more one learns about these methods, the easier it becomes to trade the entire day.

First by accident, then by design.

- Spydertrader
 
Quote from Spydertrader:

By taking one step at a time, one works first to become profitable - with very few trades taken.

This is very important. I can usually tell how well I did during the day by looking at # of trades before P&L. A large number of trades likely means you are down in the rabbit hole without the skill level to be down there. As a consequence, I have noticed my charts becoming less cluttered and zoomed out a bit-> positive influence on P&L
 
Hello all,
I started trading with the basic Hershey equities method as mapped out in the first journal back in late February. When I started I made a BUNCH of mistakes. I knew the rules, knew the method, knew that your supposed to follow the method consistently.... but I guess this is something everyone needs to learn on their own. (I have read "Reminiscences of a Stock Operator" and this seems to be the case). I lost about 1/3 of my capital. Since then I have battled my way back by using the Hershey method and by sniffing out the solar stock bounce. I am now significantly up and am getting better at reading charts and distinguishing between true and false breakouts.
I posted a few clarification questions back in Feb. I would like to start posting my more detailed trades and questions, but I am wondering if I should do that here or start my own journal. What I am doing is FAR more basic than where you folks are at, but this seems to be the resident Hershey thread :).

Anyway, I'll post a few questions/observations here.

1) I think I finally understand the basic Hershey method. When I first started I would always Make one of two mistakes. First, I would think that if a stock was shooting up early in the morning I had better by it instead of waiting for the pattern to develop. Second, I would dump a stock when it started performing badly instead of giving it a chance to reassert itself. Both of these came from the error that I thought I should be making money THAT DAY, instead of seeing it as buying into a pattern which will continue over several days. For example, I purchased EXM yesterday at when it was up .40. It closed around +.26. However, there was a ton of volume on it, so I held on, even through a brief negative dip. One could call that performance mediocre at best. But then today came. Bang! It was up almost 20%.

2) This is something I could use some advice one. There do seem to be stocks which give false signals ALOT. I have been following COIN for weeks now. It got me about five times where it would reach DU early, before even 10:30, and all indicators were a go. Then somewhere late in the morning it would lose about half its gains and volume would disappear. It would then deteriorate throughout the day. What does one do in the case of stocks like these? Should I up the use the midrange DU level instead of the Low, or just take it off my list?

3) I have had 2 successful trades during down market trades when I have bent the rules a little bit. I'd like to know if this is ok. The market will be down, and most of my DU list will be down as well. However, I will notice that one stock seems to show resistance to every dip. It may go down some, but it will refuse to join the fray. I have purchased those stocks when the parameters are "close," let's say 80% there. When the market has a recovery later that day, that stock will advance nicely. Any thoughts on this? As I said, I have only done this twice, and maybe I just got lucky.

4) Finally, any advice on Hershey Long trading in a really weak market like we had a few months back? Or should I try to learn some shorting methods? I just remember from "Reminiscences" that I should be bullish during a bull market and bearish during a bear market...


Anyway... thank you again all, especially Spyder. Your wisdom on all these matters is VERY appreaciated.
 
Quote from sscott:

Am I on the right track?

If you thoroughly annotate your charts (M), and know the sequences and permissions (A), while understanding what must come next (D), then you'll not need me to point out on which track you find yourself. :D

- Spydertrader
 
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