Iterative Refinement

Quote from Spydertrader:

Three ways exist for Price to move from Point One to Point Two.

Increasing volume- decreasing volume- lateral.

Three ways exist for Price to move from Point Two to Point Three.

Increasing volume- decreasing volume- lateral.


One way exists for Price to move from Point Three into the channel.




INCREASING VOLUME





All in the context. ( channel inside a channel)





OK, let me know if this is close or thinking totally wrong here.

TIKI

edit: above red in quote field is my answers to Spyder, he is only in black type
 
Quote from ang_99:

Yes, pt3's are great entries but at what point in that bar are you sure its a pt3?

you had to ask that didnt you? :D

Disclaimer: I am not ready to dispense advice on how to properly trade this method, but this is what I do

To be honest, Im not sure I do know on that bar it's a point 3. Due to the sequence of events that transpired prior to that point in time, I am anticipating a pt3 down. As soon as I see price headed lower, I am in short (unless increasing black prv). With the other 3 volume possibilities presenting themselves, I am comfortable being short until further info becomes available. Hope that helps
 
Quote from Padawan:



I'm wondering how she (callmate) and/or anyone else would treat such a bar. The following two images in Callmate’s post show how both scenarios (pt 3 up and pt 3 down) are possible, but what would you do on that bar if you were already short? Would you get long on that bar because you see price advancing on increasing volume? Or would you hold short?

Hope this makes sense. Any help or assistance is greatly appreciated.

I would hold short upon seeing that bar. Mentally break that one price bar into 2 volume bars based on how you perceive the intrabar price action. See if that doesnt help you make a determination

Example here
 
Quote from Padawan:

what would you do on that bar if you were already short? Would you get long on that bar because you see price advancing on increasing volume? Or would you hold short?

You already know the answer to this question.

Name the one thing you never want to see if short.

Once placing yourself back on the right side of the market, what then? Monitor the dominos which must continue to fall in order to make sure the market hasn't provided another signal for change (this time, in the opposite direction). As the dominos begin to fall indicating one sits on the wrong side of the market, seek additional information from the tool set provided.

Quote from TIKITRADER:

OK, let me know if this is close or thinking totally wrong here.

What do the charts say?

- Spydertrader
 
Read Journal 1 and Journal 2 but have to drop back to Journal 1 for a bit due to an absence from the market.

Using stocktables Journal 1 methology I only get three stocks. It says to alter the RS and EPS until you get about 100. How low do you go though?
 
Quote from Spydertrader:



What do the charts say?

- Spydertrader

I am thinking of a channel forming inside a channel. Competing channels as the possibility to 3 ways for that to exist.

So what is a retrace in one channel , may be the point 1 to point 2 in a new channel.
 
Quote from CDNPatriot:

Read Journal 1 and Journal 2 but have to drop back to Journal 1 for a bit due to an absence from the market.

Using stocktables Journal 1 methology I only get three stocks. It says to alter the RS and EPS until you get about 100. How low do you go though?

I'm still reading through Journal II, but this post might help.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1165067&highlight=trash#post1165067

Interesting fact, this is one of two posts on ET where Spyder uses the word "trash". It made for a very easy search since you get to know people's writing if you read them enough (infrequent words stick out like a sore thumb...insert analogy here about chart time and continuation/change).

Thanks Spyder and Jander for your replies :D .
 
Quote from ang_99:

Yes, pt3's are great entries but at what point in that bar are you sure its a pt3?

As soon as you get increasing volume + price in the direction of the trend.

regards,
Ivo
 
Quote from ivob:
Yes, pt3's are great entries but at what point in that bar are you sure its a pt3?

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As soon as you get increasing volume + price in the direction of the trend.

regards,
Ivo

Ivo is right but I will go one step further, the trader has to use her/his own judgement for enteries. When you have done 100 odd drills of the same set -up, using the Jokari window philosophy, you will know when is the good time to enter.

Please remember the trade will not always go your way but you have volume to tell if you are on the wrong side of the market. (Jokari window)
:)
I refer you to Avi-8's postings on page 170. Go through the charts, and make notes on how he uses the Jokari window to tell him what the market is doing. Go through the 4 sequences he posted in response to TUMS' quiz. He offered it on the plate. :D
 
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