So agreed the data was sound, the analysis was sound but thought to laugh at the source of the article anyway.
Italy: 96% of Coronavirus Fatalities Had Other Chronic Illnesses
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So agreed the data was sound, the analysis was sound but thought to laugh at the source of the article anyway.
Lol ,it's more like fun watching you get so worked up when it comes to Trump , you feverishly defend anything and everything he does.
You're so loyal to him.
.Jem does not get this simple thing, you cannot just limit a lockdown to the high risk without planning and training. Its a massive undertaking.
How long did it take anyone here to achieve basic competence with the first couple of trading packages? Likewise se how long did it take families to organise relatives and get elderly people used to the ideas and habits, it takes 20 days etc to build up? Get PPE, figure out three good from the bad? Fuck it, the military can just skip basic training, they will figure it out on common sense.
Sweden could not keep covid out of its care homes despite reasonable effort, better than the USA would have managed.
Jem has never had a real conscience and never will. People like him, Trump and Dom fucking Cummings (real name) in the UK, the Brexit architect and chief advisor have done serious damage to the vulnerable in the next wave as now everyone will be saying fuck it, they do what they want, I'll do the same.
This is pretty funny, proper political commentary.
How long did it take anyone here to achieve basic competence with the first couple of trading packages? Likewise se how long did it take families to organise relatives and get elderly people used to the ideas and habits, it takes 20 days etc to build up? Get PPE, figure out three good from the bad? Fuck it, the military can just skip basic training, they will figure it out on common sense.
Sweden could not keep covid out of its care homes despite reasonable effort, better than the USA would have managed.
Jem has never had a real conscience and never will. People like him, Trump and Dom fucking Cummings (real name) in the UK, the Brexit architect and chief advisor have done serious damage to the vulnerable in the next wave as now everyone will be saying fuck it, they do what they want, I'll do the same.
This is pretty funny, proper political commentary.
Only a few outliers are saying this. These are the same people who claimed that domestic violence would sky rocket; but in most counties it declined -- including nearly all of our local counties from a year ago period. In NC only two counties saw double digit increases, Guilford and Mecklenberg (Charlotte). The majority of counties showed a decline in domestic violence calls.
Still all the groups such as Compass Center for Women and Families and N.C. Coalition Against Domestic Violence, whose funding depends on the presence of domestic violence, made endless claims about increases in domestic violence in our state in the recent months with little supporting evidence. The advocates started claiming that people were still too scared to call - so the cops proactively went out to visit the "at-risk" homes -- and found few domestic violence issues.
The entire second half of the article is all about these government supported Domestic Violence non-profits facing budget challenges, and their maneuvers to land government grant money. I say that unless they can create an illusion of increasing domestic violence needs in our communities then they are unlikely to get money at a time where state & local governments are enduring financial shortfalls.
Has coronavirus increased domestic violence? What’s happened in Durham, Orange and Wake?
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article242762916.html
Yes, domestic violence is a terrible thing and those enduring it should be provided help and assistance. Claiming great increases in domestic violence due to COVID with no evidence to get funding is a ploy that will backfire on these organizations and their missions in the long-term.
you are so cheesy with your arguments...
1. you have no idea if the lockdown has saved anything... once the hospital beds are not filled....
but
we can play anecdotal tit for tat...
there have been quite a few articles about suicides and depression...
A third of Americans now show signs of clinical anxiety or ...
www.washingtonpost.com › health › 2020/05/26 › americ...
1 day ago - Symptoms of anxiety and depression are widespread during the ... disorder and 30 percent showed symptoms of generalized anxiety disorder. ... country, ranked 12th nationwide in terms of share of adults showing symptoms.
1. you have no idea if the lockdown has saved anything... once the hospital beds are not filled....
but
we can play anecdotal tit for tat...
there have been quite a few articles about suicides and depression...
A third of Americans now show signs of clinical anxiety or ...
www.washingtonpost.com › health › 2020/05/26 › americ...
1 day ago - Symptoms of anxiety and depression are widespread during the ... disorder and 30 percent showed symptoms of generalized anxiety disorder. ... country, ranked 12th nationwide in terms of share of adults showing symptoms.
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Yes... rational Americans should be depressed, anxious and sick to our stomachs that there is a small population of "re-open CovIdiots attempting to get everyone sick and make our country look like Brazil. Rather than re-opening properly in phases as per the best public health guidance.
GWB bringing the non science, non data supported, fear and doom.
there is little to no data to support any type of phased opening... you don't prevent exposures... you just shift them in time. They openings we have been inconsistent and illogical as can be. Not science based. CA's are insanely out of touch.
the only logical thresholds which we should have observed were based on risk of hospitalization or death.
you don't seem understand... the lockdown did nothing for the low risk group.
We are going to be exposed anyway....
So why the fuck did we do once the hospitals beds were available.
do you understand the idea of a cost benefit analysis.
risk vs reward?
models which look at more than deaths from Covid but other inputs like mental and medical harm and death's saved? What about the destruction of so many millions of businesses?
In society if all we did was try and save lives we would have no left turns.
No bicycles
No speeds over 30.
No alcohol
Certain types of sex would be outlawed as too risky.
No small planes
No large planes
No skiing
No hang gliding
No sitting at baseball games without nets everywhere...
the list goes on and on.
there is little to no data to support any type of phased opening... you don't prevent exposures... you just shift them in time. They openings we have been inconsistent and illogical as can be. Not science based. CA's are insanely out of touch.
the only logical thresholds which we should have observed were based on risk of hospitalization or death.
you don't seem understand... the lockdown did nothing for the low risk group.
We are going to be exposed anyway....
So why the fuck did we do once the hospitals beds were available.
do you understand the idea of a cost benefit analysis.
risk vs reward?
models which look at more than deaths from Covid but other inputs like mental and medical harm and death's saved? What about the destruction of so many millions of businesses?
In society if all we did was try and save lives we would have no left turns.
No bicycles
No speeds over 30.
No alcohol
Certain types of sex would be outlawed as too risky.
No small planes
No large planes
No skiing
No hang gliding
No sitting at baseball games without nets everywhere...
the list goes on and on.
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Tell us again how New Zealand eliminated COVID.
and then go study the 5 points of why a lockdown is necessary again.
New Zealand - no new cases for five days in row, no patients in hospital
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12335215
Only 21 coronavirus cases are active and isolated.
How are you going to isolate the ~160,000,000 people with pre x from the other ~190,000,000 people in America?