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"Itâs horrifying to imagine kids being proud to be white." â Newsweek, Sept. 14, 200
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Hmmm, you know what someone would do who had no real rebuttal or means of refuting a point which was made would do? They might ignore the vast majority of the post, and pick out one single line which they could try to make a pejorative jab at, while still even ignoring that statement... Then they could try to appear as if they weren't avoiding it, while addressing none of the points...
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Such laughable context. You're not even trying, are you? You're just phoning it in. Even a thin veil of respectability has become an unnecessary nuisance for you, hasn't it? Just as it has for Lucrum:
Thanks for the insight, gents.
Sorry but you chose your baseline credibility and now you're stuck with it. I try to avoid in-depth debates with doorknobs who have revealed themselves for what they are.
For example:
For example:
Crimes and misdemeanors will also exist. Does that mean the government should turn a blind eye if it didn't perpetrate them? And while thinking criminal thoughts may not be actionable, perpetrating such acts is. Racism is an affront to civilized man. However, you are prepared to condone racism thereby allowing it to thrive. You, sir, are not a civilized man. You are a doorknob.Quote from phenomena:
...Get over it. Racism will exist no matter what you do. If it's not done by the government, it's not the governments business. People are free to think and believe whatever they choose. They should be free to act on those beliefs...
What's funny is how all of the things which were supposedly so racist about society are the same very things which whites are subjected to as a matter of policy...
Having to have higher standards for admission to the same universities, being limited from jobs on the basis or race, having civic and professional organizations which were not open to them because of their race, less funding for education. Well, all of these things are now done to whites as a matter of policy, yet somehow that's not racist. Looks like racism is PC and a-okay, so long as it's only against caucasians...
The biggest victims of racism in the USA today are caucasians, and worse yet, it's systemic racism... One of the united state's biggest historical flaws is it's tendencies toward racism, and the present isn't very different...
Having to have higher standards for admission to the same universities, being limited from jobs on the basis or race, having civic and professional organizations which were not open to them because of their race, less funding for education. Well, all of these things are now done to whites as a matter of policy, yet somehow that's not racist. Looks like racism is PC and a-okay, so long as it's only against caucasians...
The biggest victims of racism in the USA today are caucasians, and worse yet, it's systemic racism... One of the united state's biggest historical flaws is it's tendencies toward racism, and the present isn't very different...
I guess I can't blame you for wanting to avoid an ass kicking in a debate (again). Especially after all ass whippings I've all ready given you. I can see why, after all of the beat downs, you'd rather run away.
Making a personal insult and then fleeing discussion is much better for your self esteem than actually trying to defend you position. ROFL!!!
Making a personal insult and then fleeing discussion is much better for your self esteem than actually trying to defend you position. ROFL!!!
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Sorry but you chose your baseline credibility and now you're stuck with it. I try to avoid in-depth debates with doorknobs who have revealed themselves for what they are.
Im not saying that racism does not exist, im saying that it exists and a very small minority of people from all different races. I am saying that liberals should quit trying to tie something in to racism when quite frankly it isnt there. You probably cant watch a single segment on one of MSNBC's night shows where they are not trying to tie racism into something a republican did. For every legitimate case of racism that happens there are 10 more that they try to point out which were not racist. All this is done for the sole purpose of dividing people along racial lines. Media keeps on critiquing the tea party implying they must be racist because there is a disproportionate number of whites in it. Last i checked 99% of black people voted for Obama not the other way around with 99% of whites voting for a republican, so if you want to try to tie racism to one side for the disprportionate number of whites in the tea party perhaps you should point the blame where it really lies, or else just drop it.
I can think of hundreds of if not thousands of stupid left wing media people making false cries of racism since obama took office. The one that stands out the most in my mind was when some half wit tried to say "socialist" was the new "N" word. You have made the claim that all remaining birthers must be racist, well roughly the same number of people who were 9/11 truthers as there is birthers, were all the truthers racist? No, the fact is that there is a certain segment of the population who will believe any conspiracy theory, on both sides of the aisle, and those people are mostly bat shit crazy not racist.
The fact of the matter is the small minority of the population that is legitimately racist, will rarely show their face in public because it is not acceptable by the large overwhelming majority of the population, so all that you/dems do by trying to make ridiculous cries of racism, is divide people, and paint a picture that quite frankly is not based on reality. Im sure if you were to ask most black people what percentage of white people they think are racist, it would be probably 10 times higher then the true figure, and they feel this way because dems have painted this picture. This in turn makes blacks hate white and the cycle continues.
Now lets talk about how ridiculous it is for democrats to try to legislate away racism, through racial quotas and so on. The very thoughtof legislating away racism is a completely ridiculous concept. You can not take away one persons rights based on race through legislation and give them to another person and say that you are honestly out there looking for equality, and all you have done when you do something like this is alienate more people, and divide people further along racial lines.
The reason why dems are far more destructive to black people is because they have also taught people that it is ok to pop out 5 babies out of wedlock and live on welfare while you raise them. Well guess what if there is a disproportionate rate of failure among the black people in the states it is because of this very concept. The majority of kids whether white or black have no chance to be successfull in life if they are born to a family with a single mother living on welfare and 8 babies, it has nothing to do with racism, it has to do with poor decision making from the very start of a persons life. Until democrats start preaching personal responsibility instead of making these people out to be some sort of victim nothing will ever change, but hey look at the bright side when you encourage a mom to pop out 8 babies out of wedlock you will inevitably end up with 8 more democratic votes, and the cycle of destruction will continue. Why is it that black immigrants, or even black people living in Canada succeed proportionately if not higher then other races as opposed to the second generation ones born in the states? It is because in Canada these people are not taught from an early age that they are victims of some sort of oppressive force which is holding them down, they are taught they will have an equal shake at life but they must make the correct choices in order to get their equal shake. Like i said before, thank god all this garbage/phony cries of racism is not a part of the dialogue in politics in canada when you tune into the CBC every night, or the situation would probably be the same.
I can think of hundreds of if not thousands of stupid left wing media people making false cries of racism since obama took office. The one that stands out the most in my mind was when some half wit tried to say "socialist" was the new "N" word. You have made the claim that all remaining birthers must be racist, well roughly the same number of people who were 9/11 truthers as there is birthers, were all the truthers racist? No, the fact is that there is a certain segment of the population who will believe any conspiracy theory, on both sides of the aisle, and those people are mostly bat shit crazy not racist.
The fact of the matter is the small minority of the population that is legitimately racist, will rarely show their face in public because it is not acceptable by the large overwhelming majority of the population, so all that you/dems do by trying to make ridiculous cries of racism, is divide people, and paint a picture that quite frankly is not based on reality. Im sure if you were to ask most black people what percentage of white people they think are racist, it would be probably 10 times higher then the true figure, and they feel this way because dems have painted this picture. This in turn makes blacks hate white and the cycle continues.
Now lets talk about how ridiculous it is for democrats to try to legislate away racism, through racial quotas and so on. The very thoughtof legislating away racism is a completely ridiculous concept. You can not take away one persons rights based on race through legislation and give them to another person and say that you are honestly out there looking for equality, and all you have done when you do something like this is alienate more people, and divide people further along racial lines.
The reason why dems are far more destructive to black people is because they have also taught people that it is ok to pop out 5 babies out of wedlock and live on welfare while you raise them. Well guess what if there is a disproportionate rate of failure among the black people in the states it is because of this very concept. The majority of kids whether white or black have no chance to be successfull in life if they are born to a family with a single mother living on welfare and 8 babies, it has nothing to do with racism, it has to do with poor decision making from the very start of a persons life. Until democrats start preaching personal responsibility instead of making these people out to be some sort of victim nothing will ever change, but hey look at the bright side when you encourage a mom to pop out 8 babies out of wedlock you will inevitably end up with 8 more democratic votes, and the cycle of destruction will continue. Why is it that black immigrants, or even black people living in Canada succeed proportionately if not higher then other races as opposed to the second generation ones born in the states? It is because in Canada these people are not taught from an early age that they are victims of some sort of oppressive force which is holding them down, they are taught they will have an equal shake at life but they must make the correct choices in order to get their equal shake. Like i said before, thank god all this garbage/phony cries of racism is not a part of the dialogue in politics in canada when you tune into the CBC every night, or the situation would probably be the same.
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So are you saying that racism doesn't exist? Or that if it does it exist that it should be ignored? Apparently, it's one of the two, so I'll let you decide.
I also have a fairly culturally rich background. Perhaps not quite as diverse as yours in my early childhood by your account, but it certainly flourished in university and beyond. Just because it may not exist in our own respective microcosms, so to speak, does not mean it doesn't exist. There's a fair amount of shit out there posing as something else when not blatantly outright. Apparently more so in the US than in Canada. Denying its existence, ignoring it, or sweeping it under the rug has never made any problem go away.
What we need is more responsible guys liek this who call out these race hustlers, but inevitably if a black person sticks up for the right wing, they are called an uncle tom, or a race traitor, or anny barrage of different insults, cause dems cant accept any blacks actually looking out for their best interest.
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The difference between race hustlers and racists is that while they both divide based on race one is acceptable by society, and actually encouraged by most democrats, while the other is not accepted by the overwhelming majority of the population.
The guy saying that socialism is the new "N" word should have been canned on the spot, but instead it is allowed to pass, and he is allowed to continue dividing people among racial lines.
The people making phony cries of racism are much more racially divisive because they are accepted by the majority of society where as actual racists are not.
The reason why the majority of people my age were able to grow up in an assimilated environment where everyones culture is accepted in canada is because there was not a bunch of race hustlers dominating the scenes making it impossible for this to take place. Like i said before, the area i grew up racism simply did not exist i remember a couple times when someone legitamately threw out racial slurs at people in parties in college/highschool, and the ones who did it promptly got their ass kicked by every single person regardless of race at the party. That didnt mean that we didnt make jokes about obvious racial stereotypes with each other, there is a massive difference between calling someone a niggar, and making a joke about a stereotype with them, my friends accepted it, and truth be told most of it was jokes about me and white people by every other race because where i grew up i was practically the minority, this never bugged me one bit, because we all knew who we were, and we knew we were saying shit in good fun with each other.
Like i said before the majority of my colored friends had christmas trees up at christmas and their parents gave them presents because they were fully assimilated into western culture. In the states race hustlers have created a far different society, whereby it is not acceptable to celebrate something like christmas if it isnt a religious belief of yours, because anyone who does something like this is called a traitor by left wing race hustlers.
The guy saying that socialism is the new "N" word should have been canned on the spot, but instead it is allowed to pass, and he is allowed to continue dividing people among racial lines.
The people making phony cries of racism are much more racially divisive because they are accepted by the majority of society where as actual racists are not.
The reason why the majority of people my age were able to grow up in an assimilated environment where everyones culture is accepted in canada is because there was not a bunch of race hustlers dominating the scenes making it impossible for this to take place. Like i said before, the area i grew up racism simply did not exist i remember a couple times when someone legitamately threw out racial slurs at people in parties in college/highschool, and the ones who did it promptly got their ass kicked by every single person regardless of race at the party. That didnt mean that we didnt make jokes about obvious racial stereotypes with each other, there is a massive difference between calling someone a niggar, and making a joke about a stereotype with them, my friends accepted it, and truth be told most of it was jokes about me and white people by every other race because where i grew up i was practically the minority, this never bugged me one bit, because we all knew who we were, and we knew we were saying shit in good fun with each other.
Like i said before the majority of my colored friends had christmas trees up at christmas and their parents gave them presents because they were fully assimilated into western culture. In the states race hustlers have created a far different society, whereby it is not acceptable to celebrate something like christmas if it isnt a religious belief of yours, because anyone who does something like this is called a traitor by left wing race hustlers.
The majority of the legitimate racists left will die with your (gabfly1) generation, and if the left wing race hustlers are allowed to continue their rhetoric, we will still get no further then where we are today in terms of race relations, because whites will live in fear of saying something which is not even racist that they can get skewered for, thus whites and blacks/minorities will continue to live thinking everyone out there has a deep seeded hatred for them, and no true assimilation among cultures will ever be allowed to take place. Everyone will stick to the safety of hanging out with their own culture.
racism is like global warming, if we all stopped talking about it, it will go away
'25% of black males have been incarcerated' said Al Sharpton
'25% of black males have been incarcerated' said Rush Limbaugh
which statement is 'racist'?
It's gotten far beyond the point of ridiculous. The real racists see race in everything. A KKK member and the person who insists white children should be made to feel guilty, are basically two sides of the same coin.
'25% of black males have been incarcerated' said Al Sharpton
'25% of black males have been incarcerated' said Rush Limbaugh
which statement is 'racist'?
It's gotten far beyond the point of ridiculous. The real racists see race in everything. A KKK member and the person who insists white children should be made to feel guilty, are basically two sides of the same coin.