It turns out Peter Navarro is A Top Tier Advisor...

jem said:
Regardless of what you think about Trump..
"Donald Trump enacted his travel ban two days later, on January 31."

When your team was calling him a racist and a xenophobe.
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That travel ban did not stop Americans from traveling to and from China. It only stopped non American travel.

Over 400,000 people have traveled to and from China and America since this fake travel ban.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/
 
Spike Trader said:
Here is an eyeopener for the 'if it works , it will be a shoe in for Trump in November' society here in ET.

Top biologist to Fox News host: Unproven drug treatment hyped by Trump is ‘complete and utter nonsense’


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Dr. William Haseltine, a biologist renowned for his work in confronting the HIV/AIDS epidemic, fighting anthrax and advancing our knowledge of the human genome, told Fox News on Monday that an unproven drug treatment for the new coronavirus hyped by President Donald Trump was a “quack cure.””It’s sad to me that people are promoting that drug. We know already from studies at best it will have a very mild effect — at very best,” Haseltine told Fox News host Dana Perino about hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug that Trump has repeatedly promoted against the advice given by Dr. Anthony Fauci.

Perino then asked Haseltine about “stories of people saying that they’ve had this Lazarus effect by using this drug,” an apparent reference to a claim made by her Fox News colleague Laura Ingraham.


Haseltine replied, “That is nonsense — complete and utter nonsense. And, in any situation, there are always going to be people who promote one kind of quack cure or another, and there are Lazarus effects. In every epidemic I’ve ever looked at, it’s always the case.”

Haseltine himself told Salon last month that Trump bears a considerable amount of blame for the extent to which the pandemic has ravaged America.
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Although I bought the drug and Sanofi stock before Trump started to promote it (Sanofi stock on *18th, drug earlier) I have read a lot of results, and I can read them far better than most people.. It is as he says, mediocre to no effect. To have the effects they are claiming, the dose would poison the patient in many cases.

It relaxes muscles, inflammation, this could help people with genuine lung muscular distress but few actually need ventilators, they need oxygen, a CPAP with O2 is most appropriate. They don't get into real distress, just starved of oxygen and external blood oxygenation or early O2 treatment seems smarter.

The level at which the zinc ionophore effect (metal ion bonding) works to slow this virus' replication is not much at all in vivo. Zinc has been a thing/hope in cancer for a few years now, I work at a hospice. I grasp the workings. I'm not an expert like Jem...

His lazarus effect people are just the usual liars who crawl up from the depths. Narcissism attracts these fantasist and clowns.

'When Hell is full the Clowns will walk the Earth.'
4:13 The Book of Admin

* This was partially based on another product they sell also, a specific prophylactic probiotic strain which is common here for food poisoning as there were a lot of reports of covid-19 causing intestinal distress.
 
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jem said:
what is your point?

are you are saying he should have shutdown even more?
it would then follow that you are saying the resistance were morons for opposing his ban?
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He made many points , one of them was Trump shut the door way too late.
 
jem said:
what is your point?

are you are saying he should have shutdown even more?
it would then follow that you are saying the resistance were morons for opposing his ban?
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You’re a sheep so look to spin anything and everything back to making Trump look like he is not a lying ass moron. I get it.

But people with their brains still not polluted with garbage understand with Trump it’s almost always a lie, the question is what degree of lie is it.

In this case it’s a question of was there actually a travel ban and the answer is no. There were restrictions placed on foreigners traveling from China to America. Americans were free to travel to the extent of 400,000 times. That’s not a ban.

Trump wants to convey to Americans he took concrete steps to protect the country so he embellished what he did with foreigners traveling from China to America.

Bottom line is his ban had more holes than Swiss cheese. The best thing to do at that time was to Institute mandatory quarantine for travelers but he is not the sharpest tool in the shed so we got some bullshit instead.
 
I knew you would not answer..

you gave us...

1. attack the messenger bullshit. I did not call you a name I asked you a question.

2. I am glad you want to define ban as a complete ban as opposed to a partial ban... but you are just using this as a red herring. Where is you substance... did you desire a more complete ban? I did.

I am happy to critique Trump.

I blame Trump for not having a wall and I blame him for not have a Obamacare replacement plan and for my taxes going up thousands of dollar.

But you could not answer the question because you would never be anti democrat.. and your team was even against his partial ban.

So of course you would not have been for an even more effective ban... which is would I would have preferred.


UsualName said:
You’re a sheep so look to spin anything and everything back to making Trump look like he is not a lying ass moron. I get it.

But people with their brains still not polluted with garbage understand with Trump it’s almost always a lie, the question is what degree of lie is it.

In this case it’s a question of was there actually a travel ban and the answer is no. There were restrictions placed on foreigners traveling from China to America. Americans were free to travel to the extent of 400,000 times. That’s not a ban.

Trump wants to convey to Americans he took concrete steps to protect the country so he embellished what he did with foreigners traveling from China to America.

Bottom line is his ban had more holes than Swiss cheese. The best thing to do at that time was to Institute mandatory quarantine for travelers but he is not the sharpest tool in the shed so we got some bullshit instead.
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UsualName said:
In this case it’s a question of was there actually a travel ban and the answer is no. There were restrictions placed on foreigners traveling from China to America. Americans were free to travel to the extent of 400,000 times. That’s not a ban.

Trump wants to convey to Americans he took concrete steps to protect the country so he embellished what he did with foreigners traveling from China to America.
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And yet...

New York's coronavirus outbreak originated mainly in travelers from Europe, new studies show:

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-coronavirus-outbreak-mainly-came-from-travelers-from-europe-2020-4


 
UsualName said:
We had a pretty good idea of this a couple of weeks ago. The problem is the European strain seems to be pretty bad.
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Where "pretty bad" is defined as "New York fucked up their response so we will cover the dem's arses by saying that the virus strain is worse there."
 
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