It this market being proped up?

Who is proping this market up?

  • No one, it's the natural order of things

    Votes: 30 41.1%
  • Plunge Protection Team (PPT)

    Votes: 23 31.5%
  • Insititutional traders,

    Votes: 14 19.2%
  • Retail Investors / buy the dip investors

    Votes: 6 8.2%

  • Total voters
    73
oh i forgot!!!


institutions 30 --- hedgies 34

still early 4th quarter action after the hedgies intercepted an institutional pass and ran it back for a touchdown! :D
 
Quote from MacroEvent:

thats right --- i only get to trade, while you keep posting your opinions on various threads --- ok i got it now.


:D :D :D

Posting opinions is different then you lecturing everyone why the market is doing what it's doing. Nobody really cares. If you want to post opinions, tell me who is going to the Superbowl this year. Don't talk about sector rotation. Double yawn.
 
indy or steelers from the afc championship game

philly or the vikes from the nfc championship game


surprise teams of this year will be cards winning their division
and the pats not winning their division.
 
Quote from MacroEvent:

indy or steelers from the afc

philly or the vikes from the nfc

No way! The Vikes? Are you kidding me? I have Atlanta and probably Indy although I think I should be smart and take San Diego. Indy is a let down every year.
 
are you paying attention to what the odd's for divisional winners and nfc/afc championships winners are?

those bookies don't want to lose any money --- odd's are a bit surprising this year for several teams.


time to start a new chat thread! :D
 
Mkt isn't being artifically propped up, it's legit buying.

Any excuse and rationalization people can conjure up to buy they will. It's just bullshit.

I actually had somebody tell me the high gas prices and an inverted yield curve were good for the mkt.

People are out of their f*cking minds in my opinion.

If GDP came in at 10 mkt would love it because the economy is strong, if it came in at 1 mkt would love it because they wrongly believe the fed will cut rates.

The mkt is a game of rationalization and demand, nothing else.
 
Quote from nitro:

Yes. More correctly I think they call my inital position a "bear collar", even though there is no underlying position, making the use of the term "collar" somewhat strange. It has a identical PnL graph (but slower) to a synthetic short with a slower delta, so I just call it a "synthetic short position with slower delta" for lack of liking the term "short collar."

I like the position because of the flexibility it gives...

nitro

Risk-reversal = long synthetic, split strike
Risk-conversion = short synthetic, split strike

Reversal = short stock, long synthetic at same-strike
Conversion = long stock, short synthetic at same-strike

"Risk Reversal" is the general-term used to denote a split-strike synthetic, long or short. Any one of those will do.
 
just another day at the "liquidity pumper" with long scalps one after the other with every buy program burst ---- massive activity today.

no, there is no way this market is being pushed! HAHAHAHA! :D
 
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