IT Term

Quote from dbphoenix:

If points aren't working for you, you may be interested in a chart I posted earlier:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=460888

If so, here's the post it's attached to:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29005&perpage=1&pagenumber=164
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Thks db... I agree strongly with your statement on this page:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29005&perpage=1&pagenumber=165

about not thinking about things simply in terms of lines and angles -- but to delve into
what the story is behind those lines and angles. (To me) doing this is much much
much harder than it sounds -- but I believe this type of thought process is critical for
any approach.

JT
 
Quote from BA_Trader:

Thks db... I agree strongly with your statement on this page:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29005&perpage=1&pagenumber=165

about not thinking about things simply in terms of lines and angles -- but to delve into
what the story is behind those lines and angles. (To me) doing this is much much
much harder than it sounds -- but I believe this type of thought process is critical for
any approach.

JT
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You may want to look at the two posts following that one. It really shouldn't be all that hard, at least if you're a worker.
 
Here is the current IT. This IT has been about 8 days long. I anticipate a BO up and a start of a new IT long that coincides with a Failure to traverse the LT short channel.
 

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Quote from dbphoenix:

You may want to look at the two posts following that one. It really shouldn't be all that hard, at least if you're a worker.
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db -

I've had a little time to think about your stairstep trend concept --
I plan on reading your whole thread this weekend... but for
starters:

Your concept fits in nicely with my current concept of trend
channels... to me one of the strongest concepts is how *price*
provides support for the test after the BO and a platform
for the next rise in the staircase. A violation of this support is
a possible warning sign -- simple but good good stuff.

further...

For me -- when the 'test' portion of the stairstep pushes the
'classic' TL to the right... it's a sign of reduced pace (by virtue
of the fact that it just consumed more time to decide to
hold) and possible weakness. (in my current world this is a
"new pt 3").

After I read your thread I'll post there... posting here now
because this might be redundant.

Thanks

JT
 
Quote from nwbprop:

Here is the current IT. This IT has been about 8 days long. I anticipate a BO up and a start of a new IT long that coincides with a Failure to traverse the LT short channel.
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nwb - my lines are really close to what you are showing.

Help me out here -- I think you are saying that the first IT
was the traversal of the LT channel... roughly 3/8 - 3/16.

I believe you are saying the 2nd IT has been the basically
sideways movement since 3/16 (the last 8 days).

bear with me -- I think we have the same concept -- but I think
it's just a matter of semantics.

Why not say --

IT1 - strong traversal to the left side.
IT2 - first pt3.
IT3 - 2nd traversal with stalling at end.
IT4 - (potentially) new pt3.

In db's parlance we're seeing a test of the lows from IT1.

The new pt3 changes the *pace* of the LT (but also carries
the threat of reversal).

Anyway - I think you are just abstracting IT2 - IT4 (as I have
them) into one IT.

JT
 
I agree with nwb -- new pt3 in the works. The market might
want to go up against the LT right side TL a 2nd time before
it makes an attempt at traversal... we'll know Mon AM.

personally...

I wasn't surprised to see prices go gunning for the left side
TL of the IT up channel... when things turned around 12:00
I knew we we're potentially going up against a new LT pt3.

The trouble for me today was around 14:30. I was definitely
not going to go for the fake... we did have a vol BO but my
instinct said it was a sucker play. (After all the talk about not
following the trend yesterday - this took some guts)

Don't get me wrong... a long was making $ while I was sitting
and waiting... I thought that the longs breaking the overhead
R was low probability.

I had been watching intently for a down break on the 1min and
the 5min. When the overhead R failed to hold and prices
continued to march upwards I simply got discouraged and a bit
fed up and I took a break at exactly the wrong time.

any advice out there on false BO's?

good weekend to everyone.

JT
 
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