It seemed cheaper to eat out than go to the store - even before this

[Hombre]

Quote from macho grande:

Ahh but you err. If your figure of 12-14 cals needed per pound for maintenance is correct (that's a big "if" ), you fail to consider that is CALS per LEAN bodymass. (The reason is the ****bolic rate of "fat" is negligible because fat doesn't do much but lie there. )

The average male is over 20% fat. You as well the other detractors here are prolly well over that

20% BF would mean a 200lb male is 40lbs of fat easily.

160lbs X 12 = 1920cals
160lbs X 14 = 2240cals for an "active male)

So, a 200lb active male needs about 2000cals per day to maintain. that sounds about right to me.

Even less cals if you're under 200lbs or greater than 20% BF, like 30% for example.

Traders aren't usually in the category of "active males." And usually overweight as a result closer to 30% BF i would imagine.

As you can see calorie requirement is often overestimated by quite a wide margin.


As for Phelps grandiose cal intake, that was a gross overexaggeration by the media to hype his story. No way did he eat 8000 cals/day

You are obviously very ignorant about these things. When i was playing hockey, we were burning an average about 3,000 cal per game.
Phelps could easily burn 8,000 with his work load.

 

[shortie]

for a typical sandwich:
ingredients cost ~1/3
labor cost ~2/3

 

[r-in]

When you are in the pool you are constantly training with resistance, and you are burning at fairly high levels, especially when it is a training workout, not just a pleasure swim.
Who ever pointed out the sodium levels and the usual inferiority of products used at fast food joints is also correct.

 

[macho grande]

Quote from Hombre:

You are obviously very ignorant about these things. When i was playing hockey, we were burning an average about 3,000 cal per game.
Phelps could easily burn 8,000 with his work load.

8000/day. nope. physiiologically impossible

 

[macho grande]

Quote from lindq:

Subway’s sandwiches are naturally high in sodium. Bread, cheese and many sliced meats typically have high sodium content. And most of its sandwiches exceed the federal government’s recommended daily guideline for adults of no more than 1,500 milligrams of salt per day.

And the overall quality of what you're putting in your body?

What do you think you're getting? Pure crap. Otherwise they couldn't make a profit.

Restaurants in general are serving much poorer quality food than in the past, and that is doubly true for the fast-food joints.

ALL your processed food products are high in sodium. Unless you buy specifically "low sodium", and there's not much choice out there in that category. Almost everyone has a salt shaker sitting on the table anyway...and it's not for looks.

Salt you say...who cares! Nobody cares about salt except the few vegan fanatics. Are YOU a vegan fanatic?

Salt is everywhere and in everything..that hardly qualifies for your characterization of Subway as "crap".

Besides we do NEED salt. Also for the iodine.

Is that all you got

 

[Hombre]

Quote from macho grande:

8000/day. nope. physiiologically impossible

You are very,very ignorant about this .

 

[r-in]

Quote from macho grande:

8000/day. nope. physiiologically impossible

Actually I think I read that the limit is around 30,000 cals. in a day. I'm sure most would explode before hitting 30,000.

 

[blackjack007]

leave it up to a forum of overweight traders to think that Subway is healthy. lol

i bet you think chicken ceasar salads with a cup of high-fat dressing is also healthy?

eating at home is cheaper and healthier than eating out. you can eat egg whites, chicken breasts (not the processed crap in subway sandwiches), oatmeal, beans, broccoli, etc. This diet would run $7 per day for 2300 calories & 125 grams of protein.

 

[macho grande]

Quote from blackjack007:

leave it up to a forum of overweight traders to think that Subway is healthy. lol

i bet you think chicken ceasar salads with a cup of high-fat dressing is also healthy?

eating at home is cheaper and healthier than eating out. you can eat egg whites, chicken breasts (not the processed crap in subway sandwiches), oatmeal, beans, broccoli, etc. This diet would run $7 per day for 2300 calories & 125 grams of protein.

Chicken breasts are like $6/lb. ALL chicken is processed unless you buy organic and then you're paying over $8/lb. and the health benefits of organic is iffy at best..prolly not best value

i use no dressing or condiment or oil. just a tad splash of vinegar. that;s it

egg whites are highly processed food product. god only knows what the manufacturing process indroduced :eek:

a 6 inch or even foot-long with right choice in meat and fixin's is very healthy..whole grain bread, a healthy portion of lean meat, 8-10 different vegetables...low in cals, low in fat, high in protein, vitamins, mineral, antioxidants.

What's healthier I ask you?

Can't overeat because unlike at home once the sub is gone there's no seconds.

I love Subway!

 

[lindq]

Quote from macho grande:



I love Subway!

Here are the ingredients in Subway's "healthy" wheat bread that you love. Real yummy stuff.

SUBWAY WHEAT BREAD
Enriched flour (flour, malted barley flour, niacin, iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, whole wheat flour, high fructose corn syrup, wheat gluten, wheat bran, yeast, salt, soybean oil, dough conditioner (acetylated tartaric acid esters of mono-and diglycerides, ammonium sulfate, calcium sulfate, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide, potassium iodate, amylase (enzymes)], cracked wheat, sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate, caramel color (contains sulfites), dried honey preparation (honey powder, invert sugar, wheat starch, soy bran flour, silicon dioxide [anti-caking]), mineral oil. Contains soy and wheat.